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Mike Dudash

 

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Bridgeport, Ohio
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2009 3:01 pm    
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Today I got the bright idea to go out and buy a used delay pedal. Im new to steel and having seen many folks using them (delay pedals) I thought it would be cool to buy one and try it out. After getting it home I realized that I dont really care for the sound Im getting nor do I seem to be able to find good settings on it. Im using a peavey ltd 400 as my amp and was wondering if the settings on the amp should be turned down to use the pedal? Not liking things so far as I prefer to natural sound of my old Marlen. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Mike
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Mike Dudash

 

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Bridgeport, Ohio
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2009 3:03 pm    
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Sorry I just realized I posted this in the wrong section. Bob could you please move this? Thank you
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James Mayer


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back in Portland Oregon, USA (via Arkansas and London, UK)
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2010 1:13 am    
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The DE7 is a diamond in the rough. After trying buttloads of delay pedals, I've only kept my Echoplex and the DE7. Here's the thing, I NEVER use the "delay" mode as it's just a basic delay. Most of the subtle delay that I hear on typical steel guitar can be had in that mode, just set the mix around 9 o'clock. The "echo" mode is the reason this pedal exists. Dark and murky repeats with outstanding oscillation. Definitely a keeper for the psychedelic sounds. Read up some reviews on effects forums (thegearpage.net, harmony-central, etc). The DE7 has a cult following for a reason.
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Ben Jones


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Seattle, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2010 9:59 am    
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maybe you just dont like delay, some dont.

delay sounds better to me in the context of a band. I usually dont have it on when practicing at home by myself. If you are trying to get nice sharp blocking effects turn it off.

It matters if the delay is before or after the VP. Try both and see what you like better. No right or wrong, just a matter of preference.

My settings on a delay are typically:
delay 3 oclock, blend 10 oclock, repeat 1 oclock

finally, if you really do prefer the sound of your raw unaffected steel, I think thats valid and a great way to go also. there is an elegant simplicity and economy to an unaffected steel. whatever works for YOU , not whatever everyone else is using.

hope that helps some.
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Mike Dudash

 

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Bridgeport, Ohio
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2010 5:59 am    
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Thanks for the responses. At this point I think Im gonna stick to not using it. Im not liking anything Im getting out of it and you may see it for sale on here soon.
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2010 8:25 am    
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I would agree that the DE7 is a diamond in the ruff. I found one in a Pawn shop several years ago and paid $25. I used it all the time with the Steel and NVILLE 400 until I went to a Profex.

I love it .

here are the settings I used for Steel , within close proximity..

mono out
Range 120-650 ( mid)
Delay mode
Delay time between 10 Oclock and 11 Oclock I suspect that this is approx 280/300 ms + or -
Repeats 0 ( zero)
delay level 9 Oclock which is probably about 30% to 40% in the mix. This is a critical setting as this is the volume of the slapback signal and can easily be overbearing.

This past weekend I pulled it out and used it with the Telecaster for the rockabilly tunes.
mono out
range 120-650
Delay mode
Delay time, all the CCW , 0 on the dial
Repeats 0 again maybe a tad more than 0, just a nudge
Delay level, 9 Oclock..maybe a nudge more

Basically all delays offer the same fundamental controls and feature set, knowing how to use them and apply the settings to your style is another thing.

Don't give up on it, effects are very hard to dial in and take time and effort, make that much time and effort.

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