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Topic: tunning problems no |
Ernest Cawby
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Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 31 Dec 2009 8:48 pm |
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Just an observation, Harry Jackson came to my house and set up my guitar, it was always to tall and i did not know whay my problem was till Harry set it up. When he finished the setup he tuned it. Harry said,"I use to tuneJimmy Day's guitar, but it has been a long time" I told Harry thats good enough for me. Here is how he tuned it.
He tuned the E note or string with a tuner, Then he chimed every note till there was no waver, when finished and he played some notes, My Shobud sounded better than I had ever heard it sound before. That may not work for every one.
ernie |
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 31 Dec 2009 9:50 pm
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| That may not work for every one. |
That's a very basic Just Intonation sweetened tuning - "JI", that should work well on all E9 PSGs with basic pedal/lever set-ups. |
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 31 Dec 2009 11:36 pm I dunno about you guys but..................
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All this and previous talk about tuning problems?
My new Bigsby & Emmons guitars came pre-tuned from the factory. |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 31 Dec 2009 11:51 pm
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| Thats because Harry Jackson knows what all the old timers know. Thats how to chime tune a guitar to itself. I saw Duane Marrs do it many times. Its fool proof as long as the mechanism is stable. If you do this and then take the numbers off for metering you will know exactly how your guitar tunes out. Something that took Paul Franklin to tell me to learn to tune by ear. Best advise I ever got. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 1 Jan 2010 4:51 am
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| I was at Paul Franklin (Sr) house one day for an adjustment on my Franklin (about 20 years ago) and was tuning the guitar back up after he worked on it. Paul, Jr, happened to stop by when I was tuning and using the "chiming" method to tune my bass C string on the C6th neck and Paul told me that it was "out of tune" tuning that way! |
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2010 12:08 pm
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Does one tuning method work better on certain guitars (pedal steel) or should any tuning method work on any guitar???  |
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Brett Lanier
From:
Hermitage, TN
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Posted 1 Jan 2010 2:29 pm
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| Andy, I think a guitar with less cabinet drop can be tuned to a more equal temperament than a guitar that has normal cabinet drop. just my theory |
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Jonathan Cullifer
From:
Gallatin, TN
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Posted 1 Jan 2010 2:48 pm
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Jack is correct for the same reason that only one octave on a piano is tuned to 440. I have noticed that a 6-string guitar tuned by chiming will almost always be out compared to a guitar tuned open.
It is, however, easier to hear the beats at a higher frequency and tune them out because of the higher frequency (more sensitive) beats. |
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 Jan 2010 2:49 pm
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| Years ago, Fred Layman had an excellent article on the "chime AKA take the beats out tuning" and he suggested that when you were finished tuning, write down the numbers to all open strings and pedal,knee lever strings. Then your tuner could be used in a noisey invironment . Jody. |
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Clete Ritta
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 1 Jan 2010 2:53 pm
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I've always tuned guitars with harmonics and PSG is no different for me.
Once the strings are tuned to each other openly, it's getting those darn pedals and levers properly tuned that is part of the setup.
I start with a tuner in equal temperament, then adjust it by ear on the thirds etc. I check the cabinet drop with pedals and then tune the pedals in pairs together to match (usually around 8- 10 cents flat on mine. Works for me so far, but like Bruce Bouton said on his DVD, tuning steels is a bit of a mystery and can change day to day! Once it's setup well, and as long as I replace strings with the same guages, it's relatively low maintenance.
Clete
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Storm Rosson
From:
Silver City, NM. USA
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Posted 1 Jan 2010 3:04 pm
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 Donny Buzzard taught me about harmonic tuning way back ,he said the tempered version was conceived by J.S. Bach, now at that time he taught me to tune my tele and my bass .....hadn't gotten to psg then hehe. Any way Don said when tuning up in 4ths on frets 5 and 7 to tune the chime 2 beats per sec sharp (think coulda been 1) and tune 5ths 1 beat per sec flat(again it could be the other way around) anyway itt supposedly creates a "tempered" tuning somethin bout hearing flatter as the tone sharpens |
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