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Topic: One NV 1000 or Two NV112's |
Ron Leegate
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2009 4:43 pm
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I Don't have either one now, but I'm going to have to step up to the plate and get something with enough power to play with a high energy modern country band in clubs with 150-200 people in them. I've got to play steel and 6-string through whatever I get. The lead and rythmn players are using TWIN & NV1000 respecitvley right now - So, I've got to be able to punch through. One NV1000 or Steel King will do the job, but the down side is the weight. I can deal with it for the bigger gigs but I really want the NV112 for the smaller/medium venues and haulin' back and forth to practice. So - - the question is - - will two (2) NV 112's do the job for the bigger venues and how does the sound for both guitar and steel rate against the NV1000 of Steel King |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 4 Dec 2009 5:03 pm
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Ron I doubt the NV112 (even 2)would do the job if you have to have any sort of volume ... get a NV1000 with a neo BW and you won't be bothered by the weight, but you will love the grunt it has got !
I've used one for years and just love it - haven't struck a job yet where it didn't deliver plenty. _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
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Jim Eaton
From: Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 4 Dec 2009 6:59 pm
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I have 2 NV-112's and sold my NV-1000 so I could stop having to dust it off after it sat unused in my music room.
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Steve English
From: Baja, Arizona
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 1:25 am
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I have (and use) both every weekend. If you're going to play high powered music, with a high power band, you need 2 things; 1) a 15" speaker 2) a high wattage amp.
If you want to run with the big dogs, better get the 1000.
If you're considering two amps, get the 112 also. You can use it when it's appropriate.
You'll really appreciate both in their respective environments. |
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David Nugent
From: Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 3:11 am Amps
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Ron...There are two systems for running a double amp setup,the amps can be hooked up separately using both outputs on your volume pedal and different EQ settings for each amp, or together, slaving one from the other using the preamp from one to control both units. If you plan to use the second setup, might I suggest the Nashville 112 and then couple that with a Peavey "PX 300"(Nashville 1000 minus the preamp) for larger venues. The PX 300 is no longer being manufactured (neither is the "Nashville 1000" for that matter) but show up for sale occasionally on the Forum and elsewhere. I recently picked up a nice example for $200.00 in a local music store. This will allow for more flexibility in your setup and enable you to bring only as much amp as you need to cover the job. |
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Roual Ranes
From: Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 7:29 am
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If you are playing louder than an NV112 will get then you are too *(^%^%$ loud on stage!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 9:17 am
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TWO Nashville 112's. |
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Danny James
From: Summerfield Florida USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 9:39 am
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What is wrong with a single Nashville 112 sitting facing you then use a mic in front of it and run it through the P.A. system.
I have seen others do it with a much smaller amp than the Nashville 112.
One of Hawaii's finest lap- steel players, Bobby Ingano, does it sometimes with a little Roland Micro Cube amp., and he sounds great too. But then he does it with not so loud of a style of music I must admit. However through a P.A. system why would that matter, unless the sound people won't go along or agree with it. |
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Roual Ranes
From: Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 1:55 pm
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I have played outdoor gigs with my NV112 not hooked up to the PA and have been heard 1/2 mile away with master vol on 6 and preamp on 5. I used a Fender Twin Reverb for years and never ran it wide open.......as I said if your NV112 is not loud enough on stage then your group is too &^%#$&# loud. |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 2:17 pm
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good grief guys, the 80watt N112 was not designed or intended to replace the N1000. It is a lower powered alternative for smaller rooms/instances with a 12" speaker.
The N1000 is a great amp and it's purpose is not volume but rather clarity .
Just because someone wants to play in an assertive band does not mean they are playing $$$**#$% to loud.
If a player is only going to own one amp, own one that can cover all gigs, all venues, which is a N1000 or a Nashville 400.
IF you really have the desire to get two smaller amps than a N1000, get two Nashville 400's ! They are smaller
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 3:36 pm
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Right on the Nail Tony !!! _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
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Ron Leegate
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 5:23 pm I'm not in charge
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Well the band is existing, and I'm just getting with them, so the volume issue is just one I have to work with - It's noy my band - Besides they sound reallll good and do kick-ass music. Also no one except the drummer is miked thru the PA. Since I'll be playing both guitar and steel I can't be the only instrument mixed thru the PA - that would screw up the balance -
IMHO |
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Roual Ranes
From: Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2009 2:28 pm
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By all means, if you want to sit in front of an amp blowing 200Watts into your ear, go with the NV1000 with a light weight speaker that will give you about 100Watts left in case you need more.......amp will weigh about what the NV112 weighs. I personally think more of my ears than that and agressive does not have to be extra loud. |
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Eric West
From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Dec 2009 3:15 pm
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Spose I should start a new thread but...
I just got a GREAT little Fender Frontman 65r. I dunno how it'll hold up, but I will get another one to handle the other podxt channel if it proves up. Plenty of headroom. C6 too. In larger venues I'll mike it (them). (200$ @)
In the meantime I'm using a great little 15 watt Marshall NGDFX (100$) for a "stage monitor" in stereo with it..
I've got my Nvl 400 on deck for bigger gigs.
If I only had one amp, it'd still have to be the Nvl400. I'f they've got the 1000 up to par with it
I guess it'd be a 1000.
JM2.
EJL |
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Ron Leegate
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2009 6:59 pm Frontman 65
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EIRC, I'VE GOT A FRONTMAN 65R NOW AND ACTUALLY IT DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN SMALL VENUES - HAVE USED IR FOR 6-STRING & STEEL. HAD TO RUN THE VOLUME UP TO ABOUT "7", BUT IT DIDN'T BREAKDOWN AT THAT LEVEL. I THINK THE REVERB AND OVERDRIVE SUCK. THE RVERB IS ALMOST USELESS AND TENDS TO BE NOISY, BUT I USE A LEXICON RACK EFFECTS UNIT. I BUILT A CABINET AROUND MY FRONTMAN WITH THE PROCESSOR BUILT INTO IT (PUT SOME WHEELS ON IT TOO) - IT LOOKS VERY COOL AND PROTECTS MY LEXICON AND MAKES IT REAL HANDY. FOR ME IT'S A SMALL VENUE/PRACTICE AMP, SO I'VE GOT TO HAVE MORE POWER FOR THE NEW GROUP. BY THE TIME I GET READY TO BUY A NV1000 THERE MAY NOT BE ANY NEW ONES LEFT.
THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR RESPONDING. LEANING TOWARD TWO NV112'S, JUST BECAUSE IF THEY WILL DO THE JOB I'VE GOT THE FLEXIBILITY I WANT. IF THEY DON'T I SHOULD HAVE NO TROUBLE SELLING THEM., WITHOUT A BIG LOSS. |
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Ron Leegate
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2009 6:59 pm Frontman 65
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EIRC, I'VE GOT A FRONTMAN 65R NOW AND ACTUALLY IT DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN SMALL VENUES - HAVE USED IR FOR 6-STRING & STEEL. HAD TO RUN THE VOLUME UP TO ABOUT "7", BUT IT DIDN'T BREAKDOWN AT THAT LEVEL. I THINK THE REVERB AND OVERDRIVE SUCK. THE RVERB IS ALMOST USELESS AND TENDS TO BE NOISY, BUT I USE A LEXICON RACK EFFECTS UNIT. I BUILT A CABINET AROUND MY FRONTMAN WITH THE PROCESSOR BUILT INTO IT (PUT SOME WHEELS ON IT TOO) - IT LOOKS VERY COOL AND PROTECTS MY LEXICON AND MAKES IT REAL HANDY. FOR ME IT'S A SMALL VENUE/PRACTICE AMP, SO I'VE GOT TO HAVE MORE POWER FOR THE NEW GROUP. BY THE TIME I GET READY TO BUY A NV1000 THERE MAY NOT BE ANY NEW ONES LEFT.
THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR RESPONDING. LEANING TOWARD TWO NV112'S, JUST BECAUSE IF THEY WILL DO THE JOB I'VE GOT THE FLEXIBILITY I WANT. IF THEY DON'T I SHOULD HAVE NO TROUBLE SELLING THEM., WITHOUT A BIG LOSS. |
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Eric West
From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Dec 2009 9:52 pm
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I was surprised at the Hroom of the 65r.
I like the lightweight aspect. Of course the reverb sucks but no worse than peavey.
I've got quite an amp collection. Starting with my now floor mounted Session 500, Nvl400, a PV CL50 I"m picking up from the shop tomorrow after they tightened things up and retubed it, a GREAT Blues Jr with a Weber BD, a couple Roland micro cubes (one bass one I like), a Marshall 100watt solid state half stack, a 15w Marshall DFX, and this Frontman. Oh, and one 112 that needs a Ken FOx circuit board fix.
The 112 has it over the Frontman by way of the compression, and probably a more bass friendly speaker. Not much heavier either.
Like I said, if I had to have one amp it'd be my Nvl 400. It's 17 yrs old and hasn;t missed a stroke. Now I go with it and my Blues Jr Stereo on the largest gigs, miking one or both.
You won't be sorry on the 112s though.
EJL |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 3:03 am
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I bought a frontman 65 about a year ago from MF, I found it to be clean but way too bright with not much mids / bass response for my taste so I sent it back, maybe it was a bad one.
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Eric West
From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 9:14 pm
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Well TP I think it was the weight more than anything. I've been trying to lighten up a bit for my own reasons. My Podxt boosts the bass enough I guess, and it does't seem to crap out at the volumes I've been playing. I'm really surprised at the little Marshall 15DFX. It's last years model with the 1/4" outs and ins. I thought I'd look for a better speaker, but the one that's in it is really a better match than the Jensen I tried. Mind ye it's just a stage monitor, but the two of them I can carry at the same time.
I remember carrying the Session500 in one hand, and the cased SHoBud PIII in the other. That was a couple lifetimes ago...
The Classic 50 was crap for sure. No headroom at all. Maybe it is the speakers, but I'm not gonna throw out 200$ to see.
The best one for the size is the Blues Jr. The guy that set it up for me just stuck a '63 GE 5751 (Or whatever the number is) in front, and got the other 9 pin sockets I've been waiting for, so It'll get cranked for another year or so.
I'm looking at an out of town 3 weekend a month deal that I'll probably leave my MG100DFX half stack at. (Glad to have traded my HRD for it and a PV Raptor last year. Probably for the nice ebony neck US made "strat" as much as getting rid of that junk HRD.)
Funny how considerations for equipment change for different things as you get "older".. I've had a trying couple years here..
EJL |
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Ron Leegate
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 7:58 pm Change of Plans
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Played thru f nv 1000 tonight - goooooooood - plus after reading on the forum that I would need about four nv112s to approximate the the 300 watts of the nv1000 I think I'll go nv1000 - now I just gotta find one at a reasonable price. Yes, the frontman is very bright, which I like somewhat with my strat - but I do find that I have to twirl the bass knob to 10 to bring it back down to earth. |
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Terry Sneed
From: Arkansas,
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 8:41 pm Nashville 1000
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Ron, I say good choice. I've had two Nashville 112s, ok, but you still have two amps to tote instead of one. The Nashville 1000 will give you more body, a fuller sound, and also try and find one with the Burr Brown chip mod. My 112s had the mod and my Nashville 1000 has it. It will take the shrill out of your highs, and give you a little warmer sound, and without losin clarity.
terry |
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Steve English
From: Baja, Arizona
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 9:29 pm
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2009 6:05 am Nashville Series
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Thanks for using Peavey products, guys! |
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Paddy Long
From: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 10 Dec 2009 2:16 pm
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You guys should stop grizzling about weight, and get yourself a fold up trolley !! A guy invented wheels a few years back you know !!!! about the only lifting I ever do is in and out of my truck, and from the floor to the stage... how tough can that be.... harden' up lads! _________________ 14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
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Steve Norman
From: Seattle Washington, USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2009 3:06 pm
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Paddy Long wrote: |
A guy invented wheels a few years back you know !!!! |
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