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Topic: Strait pick |
Bill Dobkins
From: Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2009 6:41 pm
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Does anyone use a strait pick/finger pick combo?
BD _________________ Custom Rittenberry SD10
Boss Katana 100 Amp
Positive Grid Spark amp
BJS Bars
Z~Legend Pro,Custom Tele
Honor our Vet's.
Now pass the gravy. |
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Papa Joe Pollick
From: Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 6 Dec 2009 7:27 pm
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Flat pick and bare fingers!!!! |
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Scott Denniston
From: Hahns Peak, Colorado, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2009 7:46 pm
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I think Dick Meece (sp?) in the Denver area plays or did play anyway with a flat pick & finger picks. He did one time in the '80s when I saw him I think. Monster picker! |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 9:20 am
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I'll bet a Strait pick would bring big money.
I wonder how long George used it? |
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Papa Joe Pollick
From: Swanton, Ohio
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 10:06 am
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That's cold Erv.. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 10:10 am
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Sorry, Joe
I just couldn't help myself. |
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Bill Dobkins
From: Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 12:30 pm
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OK, stright pick... _________________ Custom Rittenberry SD10
Boss Katana 100 Amp
Positive Grid Spark amp
BJS Bars
Z~Legend Pro,Custom Tele
Honor our Vet's.
Now pass the gravy. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 12:51 pm
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Bill,
Close but no cigar, try again. |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 12:52 pm
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i think george strait uses a straight pick. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 12:57 pm
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Chris,
By jove, I think you've got it! |
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Jim Mathis
From: Overland Park, Kansas, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 1:03 pm
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Junior Brown used this combination. _________________ Jim@MathisPhoto.net |
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Bill Dobkins
From: Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 3:40 pm
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Erv Niehaus wrote: |
Bill,
Close but no cigar, try again. |
Erv, nobody ever said I was smart, just handsome. _________________ Custom Rittenberry SD10
Boss Katana 100 Amp
Positive Grid Spark amp
BJS Bars
Z~Legend Pro,Custom Tele
Honor our Vet's.
Now pass the gravy. |
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Danny Bates
From: Fresno, CA. USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2009 7:05 pm
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Below are pics of a straight pick and a flat pick.
Don't ever let anybody play your guitar with a straight pick.
Sometimes I use a flat pick with a fingerpick on my middle finger. Most of the time it's just a flat pick and bare fingers like Papa Joe.
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 7:18 am
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Bill,
You're one up on me, I'm stupid and ugly! |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 11:02 am
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Not a steel player but the late great Cliff Gallup from Gene Vincent's Blue Caps used a triangular flat pick and two metal fingerpicks on his middle & ring fingers. Cliff was a master guitarist of all styles and was head and shoulders above all his contempories in the Rockabilly years. He was from the area where I live now (southeast Virginia) and I got to know him before he passed, not from music, but from the fact that our wives worked in the same office for the City of Chesapeake. Check out Cliff's guitar work on Gene Vincent's "Race With the Devil", it's sheer artistry from the fifties....JH in Va. _________________ Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!! |
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Bob Hickish
From: Port Ludlow, Washington, USA, R.I.P.
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Paul E. Brennan
From: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 2:29 pm
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Martin Cleary from Ireland plays with a guitar pick and two finger picks. |
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Paul E. Brennan
From: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 2:43 pm
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Since Martin was one my early mentors I also used this technique for my first year or so of playing.
Advantages:
It allows you switch between guitar and steel very easily.
If you already play guitar it makes the steel a little less daunting at first.
Disadvantages:
Sound. Once I tried using a thumb pick I knew there was no possible way I was going to get the same round and solid tone from a guitar pick. I realised that playing with a guitar pick put me at an immediate physical disadvantage - like playing tennis with my left hand or something like that.
Once I made the switch to the thumb pick I was surprised at how quickly I got used to it. Then the real work of learning the steel began.........
I still need to switch rapidly between guitar and steel but nowadays I'm comfortable playing the guitar with thumb and finger picks. The other thing is that once I had that thumb pick on I started getting into Merle, Chet, Gerry, etc.
This is just my personal experience but almost every really good steel player in the world uses thumb and finger picks and I didn't think I was going to prove any of them wrong. |
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Bobby Snell
From: Austin, Texas
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Posted 8 Dec 2009 8:05 pm
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Ideally, the desired sound drives the technique. Choose what works for the sound. There are some dramatic differences at the ends of the spectrum (flat pick palm muting, or finger pick grips), but IMHO the player can cover a lot of the middle ground with either technique.
Keep in mind that the steel is at a different angle than guitar with a flat pick. The hand doesn't swing so free and easy, and that takes some work.
Good luck and happy picking! |
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Herb Steiner
From: Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 9:55 am
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I agree with my friend Bobby. It can be done successfully... I think legendary OK steeler Chuck Caldwell also used this technique..., but it seems like there are certainly ergonomic disadvantages to it. One would be the Rube Goldbergian task of necessitating two fingers to accomplish the job requiring only one with the thumb pick. Another is right hand angle which can affect muting. Also, the up-down stroke of the pick, easy on the standard guitar, is more problematic on the steel.
But hey, the guys that do it seem to like it, and what's important is what comes out of the amplifier, anyway. _________________ My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Bill Dobkins
From: Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 12:14 pm
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For me I have no choice as I damaged my index finger in a saw mishap. I lost the very end of it but more important lost most of the feeling. I use a Flat(Striat) Pick, with finger pick's on my Middle and ring fingers. _________________ Custom Rittenberry SD10
Boss Katana 100 Amp
Positive Grid Spark amp
BJS Bars
Z~Legend Pro,Custom Tele
Honor our Vet's.
Now pass the gravy. |
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