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Topic: Carter Starter Question |
Doug Palmer
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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2009 10:54 am |
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I'm trying to put a 6 string drop on a Carter Starter. Problem is that the return spring plate is pre set to drop string 5. Any advice out there?
Doug
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Jim Manley
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bremerton Washington, USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2009 5:06 pm
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From my expierance with the Carter Starter (which when I owned mine obviously I was a beginner and didn't know much about steel guitars),They are made with out the capabilities of making changes.I did change the pick-up on the one I had but noticed that the bell cranks were welded in place for the strings and pulls they were designed for.I guess that if you are mechanically inclined and know what you want to do making changes is possible.I almost did some modifications to mine but realized that I bought mine to get me started (just as the name implies).I am sure that if I would of made major modifications it would of hurt when I sold it.I had it for a year and sold it for 100$ less than I paid.
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Scott Howard
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Georgetown, TN, USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2009 5:44 pm
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I took a quick glance at the one I just changed the knee levers around on ,and it looks like you will have to cut the slot so that the plate just under the return spring matches the other string that have lowers. Of course you will have to add another lower spring but the rod should give enough from the 5 th string to be used on a 6th string lower. Don't forget to go ith a plain string. This may or may not work but just took a quick look.
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Doug Palmer
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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 23 Nov 2009 7:52 am thanks
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Thanks guys, I guess I'll cut a slot in the plate. This for a beginner student of mine and I feel the 6 string drop is more important than the B-Bb change. If he needs that change later we will put it on a verticle where it should be IMHO!
Doug
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Brandon Ordoyne
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Needville,Texas USA
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Posted 24 Nov 2009 9:57 am
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I agree...I have the 6 string drop on my RKL and B to Bb on my vertical...
Brandon
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Paul Redmond
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Illinois, USA
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Posted 25 Nov 2009 1:34 am
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What Scott said. If a slot was cut in that guide plate for each string, and the bellcranks were able to be moved anywhere you wanted them, the Starter would do anything a pro-model guitar would do and you could load the guitar up with any number of KL's or pedals. There must also be a balance spring for each set of changer fingers.
If you're going to get serious with the guitar, you may want to consider making cranks that can be positioned wherever you want them for good alignment with the changer. The Starter changer is NOT IMO a cheapie changer, but rather a simple "pro" changer that has been intentionally limited to prevent you from doing anything you want to do with it. With a little ingenuity and some careful work, the guitar can be set up to do anything your heart desires.
If new cranks aren't possible for you, yes, you will have to bend the cranks to afford better alignment with the changer...it won't be pretty, but it will work.
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