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Jonathan Neher


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Near Eugene, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 26 Sep 2009 7:26 pm    
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Hi,

I'm starting to experiment with this tuning and
wonder if anyone knows of any tab available
for this tuning?

(low-high) B A C# E G A C E

Thanks!

Jon
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Don Kona Woods


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2009 10:59 pm    
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Membership in HSGA for a $30 annual membership fee will allow you access to the "Big Kahuna" Club
where there are numerous C6th tabs as well as other tabs in other tunings.

Not only this, but often you can request a tab and a member will often make one available to you.

It is well worth the $30.

You can punch this to Join HSGA

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Matthew Dawson

 

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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2009 11:57 pm    
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Ditto about the HSGA membership. Also, Jerry Byrd's "Course for Serious Students," though it isn't in this particular tuning, provides a comprehensive lead up to it.

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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 26 Sep 2009 11:58 pm    
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Scotty's has quite a few Jerry Byrd tabs that are in the 6 string version of the C6/A7 tuning.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2009 11:52 am    
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My song "Valco Swing" (link below) is played on 6-string C6/A7 tuning. Here's the Tablature ----> CLICK
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Roy Thomson


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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2009 1:24 pm    
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Really 2 tunings in 1.
I don't know why I don'd use it more.
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Denny Turner

 

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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2009 8:02 pm    
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Round hole & square peg got me stymied: Where does the last string's "B" fit into either C6 or A7 ...and why would "G" not work / fit-in better as 7th of A and 5th of C ?

Thanks in advance for insight.
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Lee Jeffriess

 

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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2009 8:26 pm    
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Denny, what Jonathan has got there is a C6/A9, the B being the 9 of A.
I guess its a variation on the Murphey tuning, Hi to Lo GECAGEC#b, eighth string is a high plane.
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Don Kona Woods


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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2009 8:30 pm    
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Scotty's has quite a few Jerry Byrd tabs that are in the 6 string version of the C6/A7 tuning.

It has been reported that Scotty is not responding to orders for Jerry's tabs. The reason is not clearly understood.

If someone knows Scotty, maybe they could find out the reason or reasons and let us know.

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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2009 8:40 pm    
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what Jonathan has got there is a C6/A9, the B being the 9 of A.


Isn't Jerry Byrd's C6/A7 tuning the most commonly used version?

E
C
A
G
E
C#
C
A
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Don Kona Woods


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Post  Posted 27 Sep 2009 9:48 pm    
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Isn't Jerry Byrd's C6/A7 tuning the most commonly used version?


YES

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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 1 Oct 2009 6:57 pm     THAT looks good to me............
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Doug......... I use only a 6 string at the moment but I use the tuning you suggest; if on a 7 or 8 strang, the one you have noted is 100% suitable for just about everything!
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Derrick Mau

 

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Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
Post  Posted 2 Oct 2009 3:12 am    
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Isn't Jerry Byrd's C6/A7th tuning the most commonly used version?


I can only think of one person that uses this tuning on Oahu. (Kaipo Kukahiko)

The rest of the C6th players use a C or a Bb on the 6th string.
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Twayn Williams

 

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Portland, OR
Post  Posted 2 Oct 2009 12:05 pm    
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Derrick Mau wrote:
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Isn't Jerry Byrd's C6/A7th tuning the most commonly used version?


I can only think of one person that uses this tuning on Oahu. (Kaipo Kukahiko)

The rest of the C6th players use a C or a Bb on the 6th string.


That sounds interesting (Bb). It seems like it'd be fine for chords and wide intervals, but what about for melodies? A tritone on the bottom seems a little wonky to me!
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basilh


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2009 4:39 pm    
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http://www.hsga.org/forum/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1217090572

You'll find plenty of tabs here :-
http://chanos-isgf.org/ForumESG/viewforum.php?f=26&sid=158358a1146c23738f9795ae993e0ea6

And a subscription to Aloha Dream magazine gets you tabs in every issue :- HERE
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Derrick Mau

 

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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2009 1:12 am    
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Hi Twayn,

The Bb will give you a 7th chord on the lower strings. Bobby Ingano, one of Hawaii's top steel players uses this set up on all of his recorded CD's.

If you look at the tablature provided by Basil and the tablature of Jerry Byrd, you'll find that the majority of the melody notes are played on strings 1-4.

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Josh Cho


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2009 1:51 am    
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Twayn Williams wrote:
A tritone on the bottom seems a little wonky to me!


The "Devil's interval"....
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basilh


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2009 2:29 am    
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The interesting thing about this tuning is, for example.
Consider you're playing in Eb (3rd fret) we have a back slant on strings 1+3 (1 @ f3 and 3 @ f4) to get an Eb7th suggestion and then a forward slant on the same strings (1 @ f4 and 3 @ f3) to play PART of the Ab chord. Then up two frets for the Bb, but where do we get a reasonably full Bb7th chord, down 2 frets from the Eb chord at fret 1 if you omit the second string..

So the 1 chord or tonic or root at a given fret and then down two frets gives you the 57th or dominant seventh,. neat eh ?
Also if you play Eb at the 3rd and then go up 3 frets and play all strings EXCEPT the 2nd you have a pretty good Eb7th. Go up 2 frets more and omitting the 6th string, you have a change to Ab.

It then fits in very well with the concept of "Playing in Pockets" After all that's what the fret position markers are for..
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basilh


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2009 2:31 am    
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Twayn Williams wrote:
A tritone on the bottom seems a little wonky to me!


Digest the above..
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Josh Cho


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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2009 4:39 am    
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basilh wrote:
The interesting thing about this tuning is, for example.
Consider you're playing in Eb (3rd fret) we have a back slant on strings 1+3 (1 @ f3 and 3 @ f4) to get an Eb7th suggestion and then a forward slant on the same strings (1 @ f4 and 3 @ f3) to play PART of the Ab chord. Then up two frets for the Bb, but where do we get a reasonably full Bb7th chord, down 2 frets from the Eb chord at fret 1 if you omit the second string..

So the 1 chord or tonic or root at a given fret and then down two frets gives you the 57th or dominant seventh,. neat eh ?
Also if you play Eb at the 3rd and then go up 3 frets and play all strings EXCEPT the 2nd you have a pretty good Eb7th. Go up 2 frets more and omitting the 6th string, you have a change to Ab.

Digest the above..


..I must admit that I've tried, but
Crying or Very sad
my head's starting to hurt.. Wink
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John Bechtel


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Post  Posted 18 Oct 2009 7:58 am    
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I've been playing on the JB-C6/A7 Tuning for a long time and when I switched from T-8 to T-10 non-pedal steel, I added 2-strings to the top of the tuning. If you have a ten string handy and try this tuning, you'll be glad you did:
D
B
E
C
A
G
E
C#
C
Lo-A
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