| Which knees raise/lower your E strings? |
| raise on LKL, lower on LKR (Emmons) |
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43% |
[ 61 ] |
| raise on LKR, lower on LKL (Day) |
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7% |
[ 11 ] |
| raise on LKL, lower on RKL (Sho-Bud) |
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27% |
[ 38 ] |
| raise on LKL, lower on RKR |
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2% |
[ 3 ] |
| raise on LKR, lower on RKL |
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3% |
[ 5 ] |
| raise on LKR, lower on RKR |
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1% |
[ 2 ] |
| raise on RKL, lower on RKR |
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10% |
[ 14 ] |
| raise on RKL, lower on LKL |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| raise on RKL, lower on LKR |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| raise on RKR, lower on LKL |
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1% |
[ 2 ] |
| raise on RKR, lower on LKR |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| raise on RKR, lower on RKL |
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2% |
[ 4 ] |
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Topic: Which knees raise/lower your E strings? |
Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 13 Oct 2009 4:26 am |
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There's already an Emmons vs. Day setup poll...but here's a similar one: which knee levers raise and lower your E strings?
My setup is standard Emmons....raise on LKL, lower on LKR.
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 13 Oct 2009 10:47 am
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There are both advantages and disadvantages to both having the 2 changes on the same knee, and on different knees.
Having them on different knees allows for a smooth transition between the raise and lower. But it means that you can't use the B to Bb change (if you have it) with one or the other changes.
Putting the E raises and lowers on the same knee lets you use the B to Bb change with both, (and I do) but the transition between them is much harder to get smoohly. More often than not, you get a little bump on the unaltered E note.
I can avoid getting that bump on my 2 older MSAs by raising my knee up to the point where it's hitting the vertical, and catching the levers as close to the undercarriage as possible. The knee levers appear to be a little further apart on the Millennium (I haven't measured the distances)and it's harder to make the transition as smooth as I can get it on the older guitars.
(Even so, I still prefer the Millennium.)
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Bo Borland
From:
South Jersey -
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Posted 13 Oct 2009 11:33 am
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| rkl to raise. rkr to lower. |
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 14 Oct 2009 4:38 am
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| b0b wrote: |
| Jimmy Day didn't raise on LKR, lower on LKL as you might have expected |
According to the book by Winnie Winston and Bill Keith, he did raise on LKR and lower on LKL. The majority of players who use the Day pedal setup do that too.
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 14 Oct 2009 4:21 pm Knees
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Emmons- raise on LKL lower on LKR
terry |
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Jeremy Threlfall
From:
now in Western Australia
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Posted 14 Oct 2009 8:21 pm
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| what Bo said |
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Georg SΓΈrtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 2:35 am
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| Emmons, but with switchable half and full note raise and lower. |
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Hap Young
From:
Yuma, AZ, USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 5:52 am
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| Am I the only one who uses this set up? RKL raises, RKR lowers. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 8:33 am
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| Hap Young wrote: |
| Am I the only one who uses this set up? RKL raises, RKR lowers. |
9 people have answered the poll with that option so far. You're not alone.
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Billy Peddycoart
From:
champain,IL US.
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 8:57 am
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| I also lower RKR and raise RKL.. I like it that way. The left foot is doing so much of the work and the E's change is the most used, so why not put those E changes on the right, the foot is on volume.. anyway it works good for Me.. the old MSA way..Billy |
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Tom Keller
From:
Greeneville, TN, USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 12:22 pm
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| I use the sho bud set up. |
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Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)
From:
Greenwell Springs, Louisiana (deceased)
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 12:25 pm
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I also raise my "E" strings on the right knee left and lower them on the right knee right. Here's my whole Copedent below:
This setup has always worked extremely well for me and I really like it. The only problem with it is when I sit in on someone else's guitar who's setup is reversed to mine ... I get to playing and forget to think "backwards" on the knee levers and end up coming up with some interesting but less than desirable sounds! 
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1986 Mullen D-10 with 8 & 7 (Dual Bill Lawrence 705 pickups each neck)
Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks) |
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Geoff Marshall
From:
North Lincolnshire U,K.
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Posted 16 Oct 2009 6:10 am
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Hap - That was standard factory set up for MSA Classics.
G. |
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Darvin Willhoite
From:
Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 16 Oct 2009 6:02 pm
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I lower my E's with the RKR. I didn't raise the E's until I had been playing about 20 years. When I did put that change on my guitars, the LKR was the only position I had for it to go, so that's where it went. I'm used to it now, and it works for me.
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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro. |
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