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Topic: Andrew Winton and his double-neck |
Tonu Timm
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Posted 5 Sep 2012 3:04 am |
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Maybe it's been introduced here already, but if not, it's sure worth of checking out:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FKNEcM0NAQ&feature=related
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Tonu Timm
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Posted 5 Sep 2012 3:07 am
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and more from same builder - Jack Dudley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vq2VpnD0CMs&feature=related
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Billy Tonnesen
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Posted 5 Sep 2012 12:56 pm
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How about a demonstration NOT USING OPEN STRINGS !!
What can this Guitar contribute to a Band playing differen't songs in differen't keys ?
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HowardR
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Posted 6 Sep 2012 7:28 am
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I believe that Andrew is a solo artist and so open strings are crucial to his music.....I would imagine that a player/musician of his caliber can (or could) play in closed positions at will or with a little practice......most acoustical steel players that I've seen use a lot of open strings although pedal steels players doubling on acoustic tend to not lift the bar as much and play in more closed positions.......
The "Lucky 13" as well as Weissenborn style guitars lend themselves more to solo playing than in an ensemble.....I can't really recall seeing a Weissenborn in a band, except for Michael Schwartz with his acoustic trio......
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| What can thiw Guitar contribute to a Band playing differen't songs in different't keys ?" |
I think it hinges on the person playing it more so than the guitar itself.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCH-XPqkcCQ |
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Tonu Timm
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Estonia
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Posted 6 Sep 2012 9:03 am
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Andrew sure makes excellent one man show, but I have played Weissenborn in a band for many years. Last summer tour 50/50 with pedal-steel, this summer Weiss and Tricone. But Lazy River is always there:)
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 6 Sep 2012 9:37 am
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| Tonu Timm wrote: |
| I have played Weissenborn in a band for many years. |
I should have known that......  |
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Tony Lombardo
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Posted 6 Sep 2012 5:58 pm
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Ah memories.
I teach guitar lessons in Alabama. About a year ago, a beginner steel player came in to the store where I work, and wanted steel lessons. I figured I'd start him out, and pass him along to someone much better when I got in over my head.
I asked him what kind of steel he had. He showed me a picture of a six string being built by a a guy in our state, and he pointed me to a few videos by Andrew Winton playing one like it. The picture was of a six string fretless version of the one in the video posted here. He said there were two preferences by the builder around which I would have to work. The builder said the tuning would have to be DADDAD, and he said the builder prefers his steels to have no frets or lines.
I couldn't get my future student to get off of that tuning, but I did get him to beg the builder to put lines on the thing. (The builder did so, but did so reluctantly.)
I found the tuning to be a huge limitation on some tunes the man wanted ("What a Wonderful World")and a minor inconvenience on others ("Amazing Graze," "Will the Circle Be Unbroken") I just couldn't find some of the harmony notes I wanted in that tuning, and I never figured out what the matching D's in the middle were for. The builder said his instruments were designed for that tuning and that was that. We went with it. I used lots of open strings and not many chords in my arrangements.
I wasn't as obliging on the fretless issue. I didn't think it was fair to as this beginner to try to learn without frets, lines, or markers. I begged him to ask the builder for frets and he did so, and he got them.
I haven't seen that guy in a good while. He and his DADDAD acoustic steel (with fret lines) stopped coming after about eight lessons. I haven't seen a steel like that one until tonight when I saw this topic posted.
Tony L.
P.S. If you happen to see that former student of mine, remind him that he owes 20 bucks for his last lesson for which he never paid. |
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 7 Sep 2012 8:26 am
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| Tony Lombardo wrote: |
The builder said the tuning would have to be DADDAD, and he said the builder prefers his steels to have no frets or lines.
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I'm now visualizing a buyer's head morphing into a 'sucker' lollipop a la Looney Tunes... go ahead, buy a wall-hanger. Certainly not an instrument I'd like to play... much like the acoustic instrument in the video. It appeared that it couldn't be kept in tune and was only good for the one jam he played on it.
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Jim Mathis
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Overland Park, Kansas, USA
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Posted 9 Sep 2012 6:09 pm
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Just for the record, I play my Weissenborn in a band a lot. I can actually play a lot louder with the Weissenborn than a Dobro without feedback. I usually trade off between PSG and Weissenborn.
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Bill Hatcher
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Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2012 8:04 am
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| Billy Tonnesen wrote: |
How about a demonstration NOT USING OPEN STRINGS !!
What can this Guitar contribute to a Band playing differen't songs in differen't keys ? |
what kind of question is that???
talk about not seeing the forest for the trees... |
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