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Lee Bartram
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Sparta, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 5:47 am |
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| i have been using a 4a matchbox for a tone control but it has developed a distortion(i've changed battieres and also put two new transistors in it )didn't help so i was wondering if any one makes a small tone control that would clip to the leg like the matchbox does.thought it may be cheaper than another matchbox since i only use it for tone anyway. |
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Jerry Roller
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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 10:25 am
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Lee, I am no electronics tech by any means but just a thought. If you feel that the Matchbox has bit the dust, you could easily use just the pot in it and wire it just as a tone pot and discard the other electronics in the Matchbox. I believe you just go hot into the pot and shunt thru a condenser to the ground. One of the electronics guys here could tell you exactly how to do it or look up a common tone control schematic on the internet.
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Lee Bartram
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Sparta, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 4:52 am
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| thanks for the reply Jerry, a forum member e-mailed me a diagrahm so i'll give it a try. |
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 10:01 am
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Lee,A friend of mine built me this little tone control box.The switch is tone or off,he got the box at an electronics store,I think that they call it a "Project Box",I glued some rubber stuff on it so it doesn't scratch my guitar.I'll see if he can send a schematic,There's not much in it....works great,Stu
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 10:02 am
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Lee,A friend of mine built me this little tone control box.The switch is tone or off,There's a tone knob on it that is out of view,he got the box at an electronics store,I think that they call it a "Project Box",I glued some rubber stuff on it so it doesn't scratch my guitar.I'll see if he can send a schematic,There's not much in it....works great,Stu
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Marc Jenkins
From:
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 10:38 am
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| If you get stuck Lee, let me know and I'll take my external tone box apart and snap some photos for you. |
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 10:55 am Question?
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| What size capacitor and potentiometer were used in those? Thanks... |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 2:42 pm
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Dick,I'm waiting on a call back from my friend who built the box,Stu 
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 2:53 pm
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| Thanks Stu, real curious to see if I'm in the ball park with my figuring and findings. Does your tone control find it's sweet spot about in the middle of it's travel. Of course I realize we all hear a little bit different and the steel and type of pick up would have their effect on same. Again just curious. Dick... |
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 27 Sep 2009 11:43 am
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Dick,I'm still waiting for my friend to get back to me,There is a sweet spot that makes it sound really mellow which I like for swing stuff,especially with big fat chords,I flip the switch and it's more modern sounding.I know a lot of folks say that a steel guitar doesn't need a tone control...I need one,Stu
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 27 Sep 2009 1:45 pm Component values?
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Thanks Stu, I be checking back.
Tone control, I need one two. |
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Denny Turner
From:
Oahu, Hawaii USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 11:08 am
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Lee,
There's an ebay seller that makes well-made volume boxes in plastic for $16 and in heavy duty metal for $24, free shipping for either. Can't hardly build one for those prices. I've bought about 5 of those suckers and use them all around the shop; Handy as heck. Don't let his fancy description mislead you; Those boxes are nothing more than a volume pot and circuit wired into a project box, ...female jacks on each end.
You can rewire them to be a remote tone control; Pot output desoldered and rewired through a cap to sleeve ground on either the input or output jack, and a jumper soldered between the tips and between the sleeves of both jacks. You can velcro or glue the box onto a handy place such as a flat clip-on mic stand (ie steel guitar leg) accessory plate for instance.
If you don't like the female jacks on both ends of the box you could replace one with a male plug or, or use a male-male adapter jack so it will plug directly into your guitar like the other one shown in this discussion chain.
I can also envision fabricating a piece of light steel pipe with an ID to match a steel guitar's leg's OD, and cut the pipe in half longitudinally into an elongated "C", and then gluing a rare earth magnet into the inside back of the box, and voila the box would likely stick right to a steel guitar's leg and pull right off for packing up for the night.
Here's his ebay store:
http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Carls-Custom-Guitars__W0QQ_sidZ12789884QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em14?_pgn=1
And Pics:
Maybe this might be an option for achieving an easy and handy remote tone control.
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Lee Bartram
From:
Sparta, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 1 Oct 2009 5:49 am
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| thanks for the reply Denny and to all of those who have replied... |
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