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Philip Mitrakos
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Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 7:33 am
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Doesn't the seller always pay the fees?
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Philip Mitrakos
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 7:40 am
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Bent Romnes
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 7:57 am
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Philip, you are right, there are no fees for the buyer, or the payer.
There are however, fees to pay by the seller, or the recipient of your payment.
Everybody knows how that works. Noting new here, Philip.
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Bob Knight
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Bowling Green KY
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 8:17 am
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Philip Mitrakos
From:
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 8:18 am
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Don Brown, Sr.
From:
New Jersey
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 9:13 am
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Philip,
Wouldn't that be much the same as selling an item on B0b's forum, and then saying: Close it out, I changed my mind. So bob gets the shaft?
I'm by all means not perfect, but I do believe when a service offers something of advantage, such as Paypal definitely does, in protecting both the buyer and seller in many ways, not to mention the security and speed of payment, that the cost is well worth it.
Where else can you send someone money, with them only having an email address? And, it's guaranteed to get to them, and nobody else. Or it sits in a limbo acct., until the receiving party verifies they are who they are suppose to be, unless they are already a registered user. But, you're right! It cost neither party one cent.
Just the security in paying through them, if things aren't as suggested they were, etc, and yet the very folks using their services, for some reason or other feel they're being treated unfair, and being ripped off.
My question is this: If someone feels they're being ripped by the service they're "willingly" using, then why would they continue to use that service?
My feelings are: Integrity, in life, goes one hell of a long ways in telling what a person is truly made out of........
I don't think the forum is supposed to be used for unethical purposes........ Regardless of the information provided. LH&R goes a long way in life. |
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 9:37 am
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Don Brown Sr. I do believe that you've got that integrity thing figured out,A tip of the hat to you,Stu
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richard burton
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 9:57 am
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Don Brown Sr
I was trying to formulate a post along the same lines as yours, but you put it better 
Integrity is all-important, in my book |
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Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 10:52 am
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Well put, Brother Don......
Lil Nic
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Darvin Willhoite
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Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 11:52 am
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I agree with Don also. I do hundreds of Paypal transactions a year, and I have no problem with paying their fees. They provide a very helpful service, I pay the fee to help keep them in business.
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john widgren
From:
Wilton CT
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 11:58 am Paypal
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I use the service, I pay the fees...Straight up. No problem.
Old fashioned that way I guess.
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 12:11 pm
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For us dinosaurs that don't use PayPal, please splain what's going on.   |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 12:34 pm
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It is true that for "Personal" transfers, no fees are due. See link below. However, this is for personal use and not for payment of purchases. It appears they depend on an honor system to control this. I guess the question is if a deal between two people, not a business, is personal or not. I'd say if you use Paypal, you should pay the fees. If you're dealing with someone that you trust, accept a check.
Would you go in a resturaunt and eat and leave without paying the bill, just because you could get by with it? Same thing as reversing the addresses on a letter and dropping in the mailbox without a stamp. It works, but it's not honest.
Whoever thought up the Paypal idea is a smart guy, and I'm sure they're getting rich. Nothing wrong with that. Banks are paying 3% for using your money for a year. Paypal get's 3% immediately. They provide a good service and all kinds of security measures to keep it safe. 
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/marketingweb?cmd=_display-fees-outside |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 12:38 pm
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I know the folks at PayPal make plenty of money, but I think they're a real boon now that so many of us trade on-line.
If I'm buying something, the money is safely with the seller at the click of a mouse. If he requires, I'm happy to split the fees with him. It's not much to pay for the peace of mind.
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 1:01 pm
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when i started using paypal a few years back, as a debitor, i was'nt charged any fees
only the creditor payed them
since a year ago, BOTH the debitor & the creditor pay the fees
which means that paypal gets double the fees now
how many of you have noticed this ?
like many, i use paypal & am glad to use it & pay the fees considering that most of the stuff i buy is in the states & i'm over here on the otherside of the waters
what tickles me tho' is that many vendors who have paypal accounts ask that the buyer pay their fees
if one has & uses his paypal account is'nt it normal that he pays for the use of his own account ?
i'm not bit--in' & i'm no cheapskate either
i suggest that when selling an article, the vendor includes his paypal fees in his selling price so as to alleviate/absorb/avoid mishaps to fair play
how many of you have used paypal to buy a 2800$ steel ?
like the Fo'bro' wrote, paypal makes plenty of money
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Bent Romnes
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 1:02 pm
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It is too bad that someone has the gall to come on here and tell people how to avoid paying under the guise of 'being helpful'. Double shame.
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 1:16 pm
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how many of you have used paypal to buy a 2800$ steel ?
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When I gave my Mullen D-10 the Ebay mod, I got payment via Paypal. If only the Mullen had worked as well for me, I would have not been inclined to sell it. It wasn't $2800 though, it was $2200. |
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Bent Romnes
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 1:32 pm
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like the Fo'bro' wrote, paypal makes plenty of money |
Crowbear, you can say the same about the restaurant where you get your favourite meal. Do you avoid, or try to skip out on the bill?
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Roger Rettig
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 1:39 pm
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I just bought my SJ-200 on Ebay ($2000+) and I used PayPal - I didn't pay any fees, and my credit card was debited the exact amount I owed the seller.
I'm sure just he was charged for the service.
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 2:38 pm
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I use PayPal too and have never noticed a charge unless I was the recipient of the money (the seller).
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Bo Legg
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 2:57 pm
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PayPal should participate in redistribution of wealth in that the profit from fees should be distributed to benefit the poorer members of society, and that the rich have an obligation to assist the poor, thus creating a more financially egalitarian society. So PayPal should send me a check every time I pay by PayPal. Right now I figure they owe me $48,754.38
The sorry rich #%&$%@*&%$s. |
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Damir Besic
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Nashville,TN.
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 4:02 pm
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I bought a banjo on Ebay and used a Pay Pal to pay for it ($1500)... I was waiting and waiting ,I called the seller and he emailed me a tracking# as a proof that banjo was sent, however, after looking at it litle closer I saw that he shipped the banjo to himself, I guess he was trying to buy time so my time limit to file a claim would expire..however, when after days and days long wait I figured that banjo wasn`t coming I contacted a Pay Pal...when they figured out that the sale was a scam they somehow pulled the cash back and sent sellers bank account at his personal bank $1500 in red....he called me all mad saying now he didn`t have neither banjo or money ,LOL... but after that I got my banjo... if it wasn`t for a Pay Pal I would have lost $1500 ...I`m glad I paid every dime for that service...and after that I would recommend using Pay Pal to everyone...
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David Hartley
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