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John Drury
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 4:23 am |
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Not to come across as the "Kanye West" of steel guitar but what in the world is Barbara Mandrell doing in the SGHOF?
No disrespect to Barbara, she is one of the most talented people on the planet and I think it is great that they have opened the door to female players. But seriously, how many people even know she is a steel player?
My wife was a fast freind and next door neighbor of Barbaras for many years and while she was aware Barbara was a very talented multi-instrumentalist, she had no idea she played steel until I pointed it out to her one day. I showed her a picture in Winnies book of Barbara behind a Sho~Bud (not her guitar I don't believe, there were others sitting at the same guitar in the book). She appeared surprised to see Barbara associated with that bunch.
Did she play on any big records?, tour with anyone? Really, I mean other than sit in "Cookies" lap once in a while as a novelty in her show picking a few notes has she really done anything major with steel guitar?
Again, no disrespect meant, but there are female players out there that have put steel guitar in front of more people in the last few weeks than Barbara has in her entire career. And by all means if I overlooked something here please jump in and correct me, but I just don't feel this was the right nominee for SGHOF. I simply do not get it.
JMOHO
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Bill Ford
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 7:48 am
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John said,
No disrespect meant, but there are female players out there that have put steel guitar in front of more people in the last few weeks than Barbara has in her entire career.
One word.....Sarah Jory...oops, thats two.
Bill
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Billy Knowles
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 7:54 am Hof
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Ron Lashley, Sr should be in the HOF without any doubt.
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Joe Casey
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Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 8:39 am
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John Floyd
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 8:40 am
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Jeff Evans
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 9:51 am
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High time steel players got together to angrily denounce this blight known as the Steel Guitar Hall of fame.
John: How much did she spend to get this delicate, feminine depiction cast in bronze? Do you think she got her money's worth? |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 10:13 am
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The insinuation that someone could buy their way into the SGHOF is an insult to our friends who sit on the board. 
I know every one of these men, and their reputations are beyond reproach. There is no way in hell that they could be bought or bribed. The plaques are paid for by the organization, which is non-profit by the way.
This suggestion of impropriety is uninformed. John Floyd, you are way off base here. Money has nothing to do with induction into the SGHOF.
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Ken Byng
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 10:35 am Re: Steel Guitar Hall of Fame
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| John Drury wrote: |
| Not to come across as the "Kanye West" of steel guitar but what in the world is Barbara Mandrell doing in the SGHOF? |
John
Read the detail on the plaque. That says it all. She has done much to promote the instrument across a number of countries.
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Doug Beaumier
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Craig A Davidson
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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 11:17 am
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| I was very glad to see Barbara inducted. She has spent her entertaining life promoting steel guitar. She was also the first woman I remember seeing that played steel guitar. I believe she has just as much right to being in there as anybody else. I think what makes it seem a little off is that a lot of the players in the hall are past session guys and road warriors. Way to go Barbara. |
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frank rogers
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bruce fischer
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 12:52 pm
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i respectfully disagree with barbara mandrells induction. there are several ladies who would make a better choice. (jmho). so let us agree to disagree. first time i have ever disagreed with the HOF committee.
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Joe Miraglia
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Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 1:40 pm
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| I think more people know that Barbara plays steel,than Cindy Cashdollar. Now when it comes to steelers we know many great steel players that none steel players never heard of. Many people heard of Pete Drake and not the Big E.^The word FAME means"widespread reputation . She has it . They could have picked someone defferent,but they didn't, they where not wrong in picking Babbara. Joe |
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 1:47 pm
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| I remember when the Mandrell Family played the NCO Club at March AFB, Ca. and Barbara was picking the heck out of her psg. I had the pleasure of dancing with Barbara and her mother during break time. This was back in the 60's, I forget the exact year. IMO, a fantastic show, great music and I love the whole family. |
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John Drury
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Gallatin, Tn USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 2:02 pm
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| Bill Ford wrote: |
John said,
No disrespect meant, but there are female players out there that have put steel guitar in front of more people in the last few weeks than Barbara has in her entire career.
One word.....Sarah Jory...oops, thats two.
Bill |
My point exactly.
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John Drury
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Gallatin, Tn USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 2:03 pm
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| Joe Miraglia wrote: |
| I think more people know that Barbara plays steel,than Cindy Cashdollar. Now when it comes to steelers we know many great steel players that none steel players never heard of. Many people heard of Pete Drake and not the Big E.^The word FAME means"widespread reputation . She has it . They could have picked someone defferent,but they didn't, they where not wrong in picking Babbara. Joe |
Huh?
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Dennis Graves
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Maryville, Tennessee
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 2:10 pm
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I think it's a slap in the face to the other Hall of Fame members.
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John Drury
From:
Gallatin, Tn USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 2:15 pm
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| Doug Beaumier wrote: |
She's in the HOF for bringing steel guitar to millions of people with her NBC variety/music show and her worldwide tours back in the 1980's. That's her main contribution.
I'm reminded of the 11 year old girl who took pedal steel lessons from me back in 1981... because she had been so inspired by Barbara Mandrell. That's why Mandrell is in the HOF... for Expanding the Popularity of steel... AND she's a great player. I saw Barbara play steel live in 1974, and she was excellent.
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Doug,
She was an excellent player! And might well be to this day! That is not the issue here.
Nice Bee Hive!
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John Drury
From:
Gallatin, Tn USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 2:21 pm
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| Craig A Davidson wrote: |
| I was very glad to see Barbara inducted. She has spent her entertaining life promoting steel guitar. She was also the first woman I remember seeing that played steel guitar. I believe she has just as much right to being in there as anybody else. I think what makes it seem a little off is that a lot of the players in the hall are past session guys and road warriors. Way to go Barbara. |
I don't recall any steel session work by Barbara, and she could hardly be called a steel guitar "road warrior".
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 3:07 pm
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| Yes, but she's truly famous (which seems like a good enough criteria for a Hall of Fame to me), and probably the biggest celebrity who can legitimately play the heck out the steel guitar. There's always next year for everybody else. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 3:25 pm
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Like Bob, I'm rather shocked that someone would bring up dishonest motives in the induction process. My post was not meant to be one of displeasure, but just a candid expression of my utter surprise, since she was not one of the (half-dozen) players that I had been thinking would be in contention this year. (Shows how much I know, huh?)
Anyhow, before I could really elaborate, the mob was off and running. 
I apologize for my part in initiating this "spitting fest". |
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Shorty Smith
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Columbus, Georgia, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 3:56 pm
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| Just my opinion, Barbara shold be in the entertainment hall of fame instead of the Steel Guitar Hall of Fame. Shorty |
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 3:56 pm
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| John Drury wrote: |
| I don't recall any steel session work by Barbara, and she could hardly be called a steel guitar "road warrior". |
Neither of those are necessary criteria for the SGHOF. After all, we have builders in the HOF, and promoters like Tom Bradshaw. It's a matter of one's overall contribution to steel guitar and I daresay Barbara Mandrell put the steel guitar out in front of more millions of people (TV viewers) for many years than some of the other names being passed around. And, yes, she does (or at least did) have the chops to warrant it.
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Scott Shipley
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 4:06 pm
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I would even go so far as to say that most of the young crop of PSG players saw Barbara on TV BEFORE they got turned on to PSG on records.
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Jeff Evans
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 4:10 pm
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| The purpose . . . is "to establish a Hall of Fame and museum through which to support the art, popularity, and prestige of the steel guitar, to honor those musicians and composers who have made significant contributions to the steel guitar world, and to educate the public regarding the steel guitar." |
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The Steel Guitar Hall of Fame Nominating Form
1. Name and list the notable artists and bands with whom the nominee has performed and recorded, as well as the duration.
2. Describe any touring history of the nominee, the length of that touring, and the names of touring bands or artists that he/she has performed with. If the nominee was primarily a club musician, list the names and locations of those clubs and the years spent in club performing.
3. Describe the influences the nominee may have had on other players, such as projecting an identifiable style of playing and innovative musical executions. Provide examples of his/her professional expertise, playing prowess, dramatic delivery, etc. and explain how these qualities influenced others to take up the instrument.
4. List the nominee's recordings as a side musician with vocal artists and his/her instrumental recordings. Assess those musical productions for their quality, innovation, and what influence such may have had on other steel guitar players. List any compositions that may have become classic recordings (tunes that other players feel compelled to learn and likewise perform).
5. Describe the nominee's efforts as an instructor, innovations in teaching methods and notable students who learned from the nominee and also pursued a professional music career. List all other instructional materials published by the nominee and any other writings that advanced the musical performance and/or contributed to the public knowledge of the steel guitar.
6. If the nominee has been involved in the manufacture of steel guitars, explain any mechanical innovations and craftsmanship examples that he/she brought to the guitar building industry and/or enhanced the performing capabilities of the instrument. How long was the nominee engaged in this activity?
7. List other activities the nominee has engaged in that advanced the instrument, expanded public knowledge and acceptance of the instrument, or aided in its proliferation. Examples of such activities might include promoting and/or conducting concerts, forming steel guitar clubs, organizing promotional events, producing, writing and publishing, etc. List the continuous years the nominee devoted to these various activities. |
Source: http://www.scottysmusic.com/abouthof.htm |
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