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Topic: * 8 String Emmons! * |
Kevin Greenberg
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Lakewood, CA
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Posted 22 Sep 2009 5:29 pm |
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I'm going to look at an S-8 Emmons tomorrow. 4 pedals, no knees. Looks like a student type. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with these 8 stringers, and if they are Emmons, or Lemmons! Here it be.
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Cliff Kane
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the late great golden state
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Posted 22 Sep 2009 5:59 pm
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Kevin, ask Jim Palenscar, he had one like it (a 10 string) in his shop. I have heard that they sound good, it's a bolt-on push-pull. It's an "Emmons 400"  |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 22 Sep 2009 6:26 pm
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| Looks like a guitar b0b might want to add to his 8-string collection. |
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Jim Eaton
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Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 22 Sep 2009 6:30 pm
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I have heard several of these that were great sounding little guitars!
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Kevin Greenberg
From:
Lakewood, CA
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Posted 22 Sep 2009 6:48 pm 8
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*Also, I was wondering if the set-up can be changed on these, or student model Emmons in general. Right now I believe it's E9th with the chromatic strings on top, minus The Low B & D, but I want to change it to old fashioned E9th with no chromatics.
Thanks for the responses guys.
Hey Cliff, I like that! Emmons 400!
Hey Lee, hopefully b0b doesn't get to it before I do!
Hey Jim, were they the 8 stringers? |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 22 Sep 2009 9:02 pm
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I had one of these ten years ago. I got it thinking it was a C6 changer and i could use it for parts or add two outside fingers and a new keyhead and pickup and make a ten string.
Turns out the Student fingers are the third length of Emmons fingers -- shorter than C6. Also turns out that these guitars have eight strings in the width of a normal ten spread, so you cannot simply add two fingers on the outsides to make a "normal" ten string Emmons.
That being said, I have extra shorty fingers you can have if you want to add to your Emmons. I will not be using them anytime soon. |
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Ulric Utsi-Γ
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From:
Sweden
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Posted 23 Sep 2009 4:06 am
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IΒ΄m not an Emmons specialist,but that guitar looks
great...IΒ΄d buy it forthwith...an 8 string PSG,in my
book,bridges the gap between now & yesteryear.McUtsi |
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Bobby Burns
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2009 4:56 am
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It looks more like a black rock 8 string than a regular student model. It has wrap around end plates and a raised fingerboard.
An 8 string student that came through my shop had the regular student body, no raised board, and a pickup that was a dearmond like on the old Harmonies but with Emmons stamped on the cover. The undercarriage on a regular student is the same as any push-pull other than the length of the fingers. They are just as adjustable, and play and sound just as good, they just kook a lot cheaper. The 8 string I saw had the regular pullers, but the changer had only the raise finger parts. It had none of the lower mechanics of the standard push pull, so raising and lowering the same string would need some extra parts.
The steel you are looking at appears to be more of a standard setup, but any 8 string Emmons has to be a bit of an oddity, so I would look close before buying it, so that I knew exactly what to expect. |
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Bobby Burns
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2009 4:58 am
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| I saw a guitar that was like this on Craigslist the other day. I didn't remember it being in California. Is this the same one, or are there two of these out there for sale right now? |
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Bobby Burns
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2009 5:03 am
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I just looked again, and I think this is the craigslist guitar that I saw. From the decal on the front, I'd guess this is a pretty early one. I bet it's a lot better guitar than the one I had in the shop. This one looks to have a normal Emmons pickup, and pedals. The pedals on the other one were flimsy aluminum channels.
The way some guys pay for parts for these old ones, the belcranks and pedals and tuners may be worth more than the asking price. It would be a shame to break it up though. |
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Kevin Greenberg
From:
Lakewood, CA
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Posted 23 Sep 2009 9:04 am 8 Strang
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As much as I'm gonna regret it, I have decided I'm NOT going to buy this. Instead I'm gonna save up for a 10 stringer, for playability and practicality.  I'm gonna need something with quick change pullers, or go rack and barrel. Lets just say there's gonna be some tinkerin goin on.
Go git er Cliff! |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2009 9:41 am
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I don't have the money for it right now. I hope nobody buys this and tries to turn it into a 10-string. There aren't nearly enough 8 string pedal steels in the world right now, IMHO.
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 23 Sep 2009 9:43 am
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| Cool--thanks, Kevin. |
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John Bresler R.I.P.
From:
Thornton, Colorado
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Posted 23 Sep 2009 1:28 pm
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I had an 8 string Emmons just like this many years ago and they are great sounding steels. It has the Emmons tone!
If you want to play 8 string, you can't go wrong. I just got the 10 string chromatic tuning itch and traded it in for a new D-10.
I don't remember if you can add knee levers or not, tho.
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Ga McDonnell
From:
N GA, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 9:48 am
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Here's one that is currently a six string setup. The 4th pedal was changed to a knee lever. It has a Kent Armstrong jazz guitar neck pickup as well as the de'armond that Emmons used.
This model was probably intended as an answer to the Fender 400. To me it doesn't have the normal characteristics of an Emmons. It sounds best with a low wattage tube amp rather than a Nashville 400 or such. It now has three knee levers (not in photo).
The neck was custom built by one of the forum members.
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Bobby Burns
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 9:56 am
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| I'm glad to see that one. Now I know I didn't imagine that Emmons d'armond. There are at least two of them. That is a different guitar than the one I'd seen for sure. I don't remember for sure, but I think it just had two pedals. At any rate, the endplates and the pedals are more substantial on this one. |
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Philip Mitrakos
From:
The Beach South East Florida
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 2:02 pm
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| I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT A GUITAR LIKE THIS IS WORTH |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 2:41 pm
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I've seen two of them sell for less than $500 in this decade. Personally, I think they're worth more than that.
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Philip Mitrakos
From:
The Beach South East Florida
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Posted 25 Sep 2009 2:45 pm
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| THANK YOU BOB ,,, |
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Brendan Mitchell
From:
Melbourne Australia
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Posted 26 Sep 2009 4:28 pm
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| I agree with Bobby Burns , this is a BlackRock model between student and pro . I have had 2 of these guitars in 10 string version and to my mind they are as good as the pro model . |
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