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Topic: Is this Lloyd Green? |
Mitch Ellis
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Collins, Mississippi USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2009 10:00 pm |
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The Don Williams song "Some broken hearts never mend". Is that Lloyd Green on steel?
Thank you.
Mitch |
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Dave Harmonson
From:
Seattle, Wa
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Posted 2 Sep 2009 11:02 pm
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| I believe so. Nice track ain't it. |
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Richard Argus
From:
Perth, Western Australia,
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 12:19 am
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| I've always thought of it as the LLoyd Green song, with Don Williams on vocals! |
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Jeff Surratt
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 1:20 am
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This song starts off the new Show Pro CD. Lloyd spent countless hours perfecting this piece. It may be one of his finest instrumental pieces yet. Russ Pahl and Billy Sanford of Don's past band and sessions, were kind enough to help compile the work.
We'll have plenty of copies in St.Louis. |
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Tommy Shown
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Denham Springs, La.
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 4:15 am
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| Lloyd did just about of Don Williams' sessions back in the day on steel, and I believe he did some dobro work also. I know that Josh Graves did some of the dobro work too. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 7:08 am
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Yes, that's one of my favorite Lloyd Green solos. At one point I had it worked up note for note. It's a great example of a miniature composition within a song, with its own melody that fits the chord progression of the other.
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Joey Ace
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 8:06 am
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Lloyd played both dobro and PSG on "Say It Again"" if I remember correctly. I recall some twin dobro/PSG at the end.
Edited to correct above.
"Say It Again"" is correct. -Joey
Last edited by Joey Ace on 4 Sep 2009 3:31 am; edited 3 times in total |
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 12:41 pm
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| Lloyd Green ain't never played a bad entro, fill, solo, or ending. Jody. |
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Dave Harmonson
From:
Seattle, Wa
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 3:46 pm
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| Just listened to this one again. No dobro on it. They've got some strings, but the steel is the only lead instrument. Lloyd did play some very tasteful dobro on many Don Williams cuts. Til The Rivers All Run Dry comes to mind. |
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Mitch Ellis
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Collins, Mississippi USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 7:27 pm
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Thank you all for your help and comments. And yes, it is a nice track!
Mitch |
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Jeff Hyman
From:
West Virginia, USA
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 3 Sep 2009 9:03 pm
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| My youtube version HERE |
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 12:57 am
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Egil Skjelnes did a beautiful version of this one way back in the 1970's with singer Teddy Nelson from Norway. I can remember marveling at the fact that Egil seemed to pick up this piece so quickly and playing it so accurately, even in his years as a budding steel player. Some pickers are just natural talents I guess 
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 3:30 am
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Dave is correct, no dobro on "Some Broken Hearts".
Lloyd also informed me of that slip in my post.
I had it confused with "Say It Again". He played both instruments on that cut. I corrected my above post.
Lloyd did confirm he did Steel and dobro for the Don Williams sessions. He was unaware of Josh Graves playing on any of Don's songs, but it could have happened later.
Lloyd was also kind enough to offer this info for all of us:
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It might interest a few of the Forum members to know how such a sound as the “Don Williams sound” came into existence.
There was a nucleus of 6 musicians who were hired to create a sound for this fellow, Don Williams who had previously been a member of a folk-type group, The Pozo Seco Singers. We were paid master session scale to go in the studio for several months-every week or so- and try to find a unique music for him that didn’t sound like anyone elses.
The two guys producing were Don and Alan Reynolds (later Garth Brooks producer).
We started with a lot more music and each session, and song, they would tell us we were playing too much. So it became a process of deconstruction. We subtracted more and more notes over those next few months until one day when I felt we were at the point where if one more single note was taken out of the equation…..the entire architecture of what we had designed would crumble. It was at that moment that both Don and Alan said, “That’s it. That’s our sound!”
Thus was born the “Don Williams sound.”
I tried to play original and make my steel and Dobro music say something, but lord I have never done so with so few notes from which to choose.
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Thanks, Lloyd. The formula must of worked.
We're still talking about it decades later. |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 5:28 am
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Thanks Lloyd for the recap of that sound; that went into Don's Recordings....that is awesome.
To add; and correct me if I'm wrong....but all Don Williams songs recorded; except for "Tulsa Time"; the Drummer played his "hands" on the snare....no sticks???
I so wish; Country music these days were a "Creation" and not regurgitation. Somehow music has lost it's innovation and creation and have become some laid out formula.
Ricky
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Craig A Davidson
From:
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 4 Sep 2009 5:48 am
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| You are so right Ricky. I miss the days when each artist could be identified by the first few licks on the song. |
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