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Topic: EV 12L too bright? |
Jonathan Lam
From:
Brooklyn, NY
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Posted 7 Aug 2009 4:34 am |
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| I am running an Evans 200 watt combo with an EV 12L and its a little too bright for my taste right now, what high powered speakers are a little less bright? I was considering a black widow before a friend let me try out his EV. |
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Roger Francis
From:
kokomo,Indiana, USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2009 7:20 am
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| I'm using one of each (1 black widow 1 EV 12L )and from my experiance the black widow is somewhat brighter than the EV. |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 7 Aug 2009 7:34 am
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Once I removed the EV 12L from my Music Man amp and replaced it with an EV Force 12, the amp became much more musical to my ears. The EV 12L was extremely harsh.
I'm sure there are a number of good choices out there.
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John Groover McDuffie
From:
LA California, USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2009 8:53 am
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In my experience the EVM12L is one of the warmest high power 12" speakers out there, although there may be choices now that weren't around when I was started using the EVs.
Ted Weber might be able to make you something with less brightness. |
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Jonathan Lam
From:
Brooklyn, NY
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Posted 7 Aug 2009 2:43 pm
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| Ted doesnt make speakers with that kind of wattage does he? The EV force is listed at 150 watts the evans is rated at 200, the baffle is removeable and i made the cabinet so maybe i should mvoe to a 15" speaker? The EV has a great low end, its just not as warm as I need it to be. seems overly bright(Treble to 0) but i am playing at extremely loud volumes. Seems like there is an mid range hump that is happening. |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 7 Aug 2009 6:24 pm
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| What's the back of your cabinet like? You can darken up the sound of a speaker quite a bit by closing up more of the back. I like open back cabinets with about 2/3 of the back closed. If you completely close up the back, and add a port with a tube, or a slot with a shelf, you darken up the sound even further. |
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Jonathan Lam
From:
Brooklyn, NY
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Posted 8 Aug 2009 5:19 am
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| Its openbacked like a fender amp. I will try to make a new back panel. Dangit I am out of tooled western tolex!!!!! |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 9 Aug 2009 6:12 am
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Call a fellow steeler and try another amp.
Larry Behm |
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Rich Peterson
From:
Moorhead, MN
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Posted 9 Aug 2009 11:56 am
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I love my EVM-12L spkrs. I am a bit confused by your complaint. You say the spkr is too bright, even with treble on 0, but there is a midrange hump?
I have no experience with Evans Amps, but I'm wondering if the midrange hump arises from turning the treble off. Try lowering the mids and bringing up the treble.
I'm guessing that your PSG doesn't have a tone control. I think they all should. Perhaps you could try attaching a small capacitor across the jack on the steel. Try one or two 0.001 mfd caps, and see if that sweetens the tone.
Or put a "diffuser" in front of the speaker, to disperse the highs. Some speaker or amp maker sells them, but you can just tape a cardboard circle to the grill cloth in front of the dome. |
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Larry Weaver
From:
Asheville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2009 12:24 pm
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| I'd have to agree with Rich on this one. I have a EVM-12L in a Port City cab and I find it to be loud, rich and warm. This cab goes with me if I need really loud cleans. I don't like it for OD stuff. I do find that the speaker sounds best louder but if it's pushed, then it sounds crappy and harsh imho. It's not a smooth breakup. Seems like I remember that it took a while to for this speaker to break in. |
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Rich Peterson
From:
Moorhead, MN
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Posted 9 Aug 2009 12:53 pm
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| Larry Weaver wrote: |
| loud, rich and warm |
Yes, Loud! Extremely efficient, which means a 50 watt amp sounds like a hundred.
My speakers are of the original run, so it is possible the new version has a harshness. The new version is targeted at the hard rock, heavy metal crowd. It is rated at 300 watts, and I believe the old ones were 200 watts.
I have never pushed them into breakup, and I hope I never do! I would have ringing in my ears for a month! |
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Jonathan Lam
From:
Brooklyn, NY
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Posted 9 Aug 2009 4:09 pm
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I am going to build a back panel that is bigger and see if that helps.
Yes the amp is bright sounding, and has a little bit of harshness to it like someone is turning the mids up. The Evans does not have a mid control. The Evans amps are setup so that treble is usually very low. Its hard to EQ at my rehearsal space alone for a band situation requiring very loud volumes.
I just was wondering if the EVM 12l was known for being an overly bright speaker. |
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