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Russ Wever

 

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Post  Posted 23 Jul 2009 9:43 am    
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"Back in the Day" I ripped a lot of CDs to
my hard drive, not realizing that if I had
been online at the same time, the ripping
software would have included the 'tag'
information, such as album title, artist
name, song title, etc.
Is there any way to 'after the fact' add
this info to the already ripped files, or
shall I plan on 're-ripping' the whole bunch?
Thnx,
~Russ
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Mitch Drumm

 

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Post  Posted 23 Jul 2009 10:43 am    
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Russ:

Pick two or three of these titles at random.

Right click, look at properties, and check the "details" tab.

Do you see the correct song title, album title, and artist name there?
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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 23 Jul 2009 4:58 pm    
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you can change ID tags with Musicmatch Jukebox and also with Itunes I believe.
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John Cipriano


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Post  Posted 23 Jul 2009 8:36 pm    
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There is a lot of software that can do this, either by examining the length of the disc and number of tracks, or by asking you to put in the artist and album and basing it on that.

I have personally used MP3Tag for this:
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/

MP3Tag will let you get the tags from freedb, Amazon, or discogs. No one place has every album. You might have to type in the artist and album name first, especially when getting them from Amazon.

Another good tool to have is MusicBrainz Picard:
http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardDownload

It uses a different method than the others: it hashes the file to create a "fingerprint" and then compares this to what other people have uploaded.

Like you said, a lot of ripping software will get the tracks for you automatically. But it's possible to do this step later and the results are usually the same.

Note that this only works for full albums, not individual songs. MusicBrainz might work on individual songs though.
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Wiz Feinberg


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Post  Posted 24 Jul 2009 8:45 am    
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Andy Sandoval wrote:
you can change ID tags with Musicmatch Jukebox and also with Itunes I believe.

In September 2008, Musicmatch went out of business. It was then owned by Yahoo and is no longer produced, maintained or secured against exploits. All versions of Musicmatch Jukebox have serious security vulnerabilities that are no longer being addressed.
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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 24 Jul 2009 9:22 am    
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What if you continue to use it without connecting to the internet?
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Wiz Feinberg


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Post  Posted 24 Jul 2009 12:20 pm    
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Andy Sandoval wrote:
What if you continue to use it without connecting to the internet?

As long as it doesn't connect to the Internet it is safe to use, just like Windows 9x computers. However, it may stop working if you upgrade the computer to XP SP3, or Vista, or Windows 7. MusicMatch Jukebox is now an old application by Internet standards and may not be compatible with new service packs or operating systems.
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Russ Wever

 

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Kansas City
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2009 2:07 pm    
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Sorry not to get back to this sooner -
Mitch - yeah, a lot of them have identification
in 'properties', so I can do some 'cut & paste'
if need be.
John - Thanks for the links, that
looks like just what I need.
~Russ
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Mitch Drumm

 

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Post  Posted 2 Aug 2009 2:57 pm    
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Russ:

That mp3tag application that John mentioned is dynamite.

It takes a little learning, but you can force your tags to be taken directly from your mp3 file names, or you can force your file names to be taken directly from the tags; whichever you prefer.

I don't care about anything but artist name and song title, so I find it useful. Usually, either file names or tags will be correct, so forcing them to agree with each other is very convenient. You can avoid cutting and pasting.
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Russ Wever

 

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Post  Posted 2 Aug 2009 4:42 pm    
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Quote:
You can avoid cutting and pasting

Thanks, Mitch -
That'll make it all even
easier than I anticipated.
I'll 'get a man on it right
away', as they say.
Yet another fine example of
'Better Living Through Technology"
~Russ
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Russ Wever

 

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Kansas City
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2009 4:52 pm    
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Quote:
You can avoid cutting and pasting

Thanks, Mitch -
That'll make it all even
easier than I anticipated.
I'll 'get a man on it right
away', as they say.
Yet another fine example of
'Better Living Through Technology"
~Russ
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Mitch Drumm

 

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Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2009 5:01 pm    
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Russ:

Oh, chef of the future, will it core a apple?

I will show you, non-believer.

Yes, it will core a apple--zip, zip, zip.

Isn't that the episode where Ralph Kramden broke his arm falling through a prop wall?
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Russ Wever

 

From:
Kansas City
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2009 7:32 pm    
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Awright, always nice to bump
into a fellow Brother Racoon!
Yeah, the wall went down with
the Chef-of-the-Future, but I
didn't know that it was a mis-hap
rather than scripted.
I'm getting ready to go to
Convention and have Bulging Eyes,
Trick Handcuffs and Paper Bags for
filling up with water and throwing
out the window.
Woo, Woo (as I shake the racoon tail
on the back of my lodge hat) . . .
. . . and now, back to Charlie Chan.

~ Homina, homina, homina
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 2 Aug 2009 11:45 pm    
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I have Roxio Music Lab 10, and it has this feature. When you right click on an Mp3 file in Windows Explorer, the top selection in the menu allows you to enter the tag info manually or you can choose to have it search a database (not sure what database), and it will enter the info for you. I have only had it fail maybe 1 out of every 50 times.
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John Cipriano


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Post  Posted 4 Aug 2009 10:40 pm    
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Wow, that sounds really useful. The Roxio site says "advanced audio fingerprinting". If it's really fingerprinting and not just marketing-speak, then it's a similar thing to what MusicBrainz does.

There's an app for iPhone and other phones called Shazam that does this live. You could hear a song on the radio and put the phone up to it and most of the time it will be able to tell you what song it is (it takes a minute though as it makes a short clip of the song and then uploads it to a server to check). Being able to identify music on the fly is an ability that, before having it, I figured I'd never use it, but now that I can I use it all the time.
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