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Scott Shipley


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 8:34 am    
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I've been asked by a new guitar company to design my own signature model electric guitar. I have in mind pretty much what I want, but I'm open to ideas and suggestions. What things would you tele players ask for in your dream axe?
Here are the basics thus far:

-Chambered swamp ash Tele body
-One piece birdseye maple neck, c. '56 medium V, w/BONE nut
-Nickel hardware
-No-load pots
-Custom designed Lollar pickups
-Split post Kluson style tuners, with Bill Keith locking banjo style tuners on the E strings
-Thin medium-gloss nitrocellulose laquer finish

Any ideas?
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Rick Campbell


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Sneedville, TN, USA
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 8:46 am    
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Way to go Scott. That's an honor.



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Scott Shipley


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 8:50 am    
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Thank you Rick, I don't know how well deserved it is, but I ain't gonna tell em that!
I'm pretty excited about the electronics, there's not really anything else in production quite like this one. VERY vintage, but a bit more versatile than just stock p'ups.

Any suggestions guys?
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Olli Haavisto


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 9:10 am    
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I had a middle pup on one, underneath the pickguard. 5-position switch, 3 standard Tele positions plus the strat in-betweens, sort of.A little subtler than with an exposed pup. Looked like a standard T.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 9:29 am    
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Congratulations, Scott! I like your list of specs. Very vintage. I do prefer the round back necks over the V-shape, but that's just my personal preference. Swamp ash with nitro laquer sounds good. I've never played Lollar tele PUs, but I recently played a tele with Lindy Fralin PUs and the vintage tone was amazing. Best of luck with it!
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Scott Shipley


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 9:41 am    
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Thanks Doug. Personally, I like more of a '52 ish fatter V, but most guys don't like as big a neck as I do. Tryin to make it a little more marketable. What's everyone's opinion on the neck? Which one do you like?
This is gonna be a 3 p'up model. A P-90 (8.2) in the neck, a Firebird (7.4)in the middle, and a REALLY cool vintage sounding single coil bridge p'up (7.4). It'll have a 4 way switch, first three positions standard tele, and the 4th an off for the neck and bridge pickups. There will be a 3 position mini switch betwixt the volume and tone pots for the middle pickup. Up on/in, middle off, and down on/out.
A very wide palate.
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Bob Ritter


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 1:23 pm    
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Scott, what size fret wire are you going for. I like a fat neck with a true jumbo size myself...Big fat neck with honking size frets makes a big fat quacky, poppy, honky sound...Thin frets with a thin neck sounds weak but you can play faster.

What I am trying to say is size of the fret wire is just as important as the shape and feel of the neck. From my point of view of course. Smile


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Scott Shipley


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 1:58 pm    
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I agree Bob, I don't like thin frets, but I don't like the super jumbo either. I was thinkin .102" x .042". I like wide but not too tall.

Keep the suggestions comin' please!
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Bob Ritter


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Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 2:39 pm    
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That would be the dunlop 6150 size...and a vintage v neck....I like it Scott.... Very Happy
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Alvin Blaine


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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 7:51 pm     Re: Telecaster
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Scott Shipley wrote:
I've been asked by a new guitar company to design my own signature model electric guitar. I have in mind pretty much what I want, but I'm open to ideas and suggestions. What things would you tele players ask for in your dream axe?
Here are the basics thus far:

-Chambered swamp ash Tele body
-One piece birdseye maple neck, c. '56 medium V, w/BONE nut
-Nickel hardware
-No-load pots
-Custom designed Lollar pickups
-Split post Kluson style tuners, with Bill Keith locking banjo style tuners on the E strings
-Thin medium-gloss nitrocellulose laquer finish

Any ideas?


Hey that's my guitar!

Scott, I tried to call you earlier today, but I'm traveling across northern Nevada and lost signal. I'll be home tomorrow and give you a call.
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Leslie Ehrlich


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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
Post  Posted 26 Jul 2009 10:10 pm    
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If I were a country Tele picker I'd want a natural mahogany thinline Tele with a white pearloid pickguard, Bigsby vibrato, a C-shaped neck and a rosewood board. The ultimate cowboy guitar.
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Scott Shipley


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2009 12:53 am    
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I'm thinkin on the Bigsby idea, and the thinline idea (still in swamp ash though).

Any opinions?
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jul 2009 5:56 am    
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I like big necks too, and if I was in a music store and played 9 guitars with "standard" .830" necks and one with a big honkin' V, that's the one that would stand out in my mind. I would make a signature exactly the way I liked it, and the more different it was from the run of the mill, it seems that would add to the marketability.

You want to make it feel just like all the other guitars out there? In the (hypothetical) music store scenario, nobody can really hear subtle electronics anyway, they buy by feel. A lot of people don't know that a big neck sounds better - it just does - but that just adds to the appeal, I'd think.
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Papa Joe Pollick


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Swanton, Ohio
Post  Posted 29 Jul 2009 10:13 am    
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I like a C shaped neck.Tall frets.Rosewood board.No load pots.CC pup in the neck.Belly cut.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2009 11:30 am    
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Scott,
as I was thinking about your project and I had no idea, except a silly one, like a decal of the Frankfurt Stadtwappen (like Clarence White had), beneath the laquer.
But are you sure that only nitrocelulose laquer is sufficient? I think that a tele also needs a thick coat of polyester underneath the laquer, or at least a very thick coat of laquer.
I think the body wood should be sealed very strongly.
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Scott Shipley


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Post  Posted 29 Jul 2009 11:50 am    
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You want to make it feel just like all the other guitars out there? In the (hypothetical) music store scenario, nobody can really hear subtle electronics anyway, they buy by feel.


Nothing about this guitar is gonna be run of the mill, trust me. This isn't a company that will be producing large numbers. I have agreed to personally set up and sign each one. More like a custom order deal.
Basically what I'm doing is taking all the best features from every great guitar I've owned in the past and combining them in this one.
I'm also trying to incorporate other players ideas that are applicable.
Joachim, from my experience nitro breathes a bit better than polyester. We're gonna borrow an old Sho-Bud trick on the finish. I want a new guitar that looks old. Vintage, not reliced.
Thanks for the input guys, please keep it coming!

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Gerald Menke

 

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Stormville NY, USA
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2009 8:29 am    
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Thanks for a cool post, what a great opportunity. I am of the mind that the bridge/saddles have a lot of impact on the tone also, so I would suggest some of those brass barrel-looking one, and just three, not the six-barrel type like you see on modern tele's these days. Will it come with an ashtray-like bridge cover? I always play without it, but it sure looks cool. Also curious if you will have a string tree and where it will be placed on the headstock, and what kind of break angle the strings will have going from the nut to the tuners.

Can't wait to see a picture of this guitar/hear/see a clip on YouTube someday. Through a Headstrong amp, please. Wink

Gerald
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Scott Shipley


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The Ozark Mountains
Post  Posted 31 Jul 2009 11:47 am    
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Thanks George! I decided on a three barrel bridge, threaded brass. Agreed, definately a difference in tone betwixt the 3 and 6 type. I also decided on a Bigsby B5, modded to incorporate two palm pedals. The bridge will be routed near the bottom to allow the strings to pass through to the Bigsby. To my ear, the tune-o-matic bridge set-up that comes with the B5 doesn't sound quite right. It would be easy to "notch" an ash tray cover to fit too. I like that idea.
As for the string trees, I like the round vintage ones, and a little closer to the nut than the 50's models. Two of them, E & B, and G & D, staggered.

It's comin together, thanks again for the input guys, please keep it comin!
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Scott Shipley


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Post  Posted 31 Jul 2009 12:53 pm    
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Also have decided (I think) on 1meg pots.
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James Allison


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Post  Posted 1 Aug 2009 7:30 am     telecaster idea
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i would add a cup holder...
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