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Topic: A Good Example Of The "Nashville Sound" |
Glen Derksen
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 1:07 am |
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IMHO adopting the 'Nashville Sound' was the best move Ray Price, Eddy Arnold, and Jim Reeves ever made. Ray's voice sounds especially good with the string section behind him. 
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Theresa Galbraith
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 2:14 am
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I loved Ray with guitar and more steel!  |
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Bill Hatcher
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 2:51 am
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| Before you bash the "Nashville Sound" thing, just keep in mind that during that period of time pop music fueled by the Beatles and such had pretty much devasted the other genres of music airplay. The records put out by Chet Atkins and Owen Bradly virtually saved Nashville. Yes they were a diversion from three chords and a cloud of dust, but they made it possible for a continuation of Nashville as a recording center and kept country front and center to a group of record buyers and music lovers that did not fit in the the pop music world. It was smart business. |
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Andy Sandoval
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 5:11 am
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| It's all good. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 5:48 am
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| Is that an example for the bass sound, you explained in another thread Mr. Hatcher? |
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Bill Hatcher
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 7:41 am
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| Joachim Kettner wrote: |
| Is that an example for the bass sound, you explained in another thread Mr. Hatcher? |
Vie gehts Herr Kettner.
You know this cut sounds to me like a live group playing as Price is singing. I might be wrong, but that is what it sounds like. I do think I hear the tic tac bass playing, but the mix is just not "record" enough for me as per the verbs and such not being in there. On the record mixes you can really hear the elec. bass. Bis spater. |
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 9:16 am
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| Vielen Dank, für Ihre Antwort Mr. Hatcher |
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Bill Hatcher
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 9:22 am
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| Moin moin Joachim. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 9:40 am
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see below.
Last edited by Barry Blackwood on 23 Jul 2009 9:49 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 9:49 am
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| This is a strange video - the added strings sound totally synthesized, and Price blows the lip-synced lyric in the first verse when he says 'but' instead of 'and,' then again in the first chorus when he says 'I' instead of 'you.' Must have been the very early days of the 'countrypolitan' movement. |
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Brint Hannay
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 10:17 am
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He smiles a little after the chorus mistake.
I've never understood why anyone would want to watch performers wag their mouths pretending to sing. And I'd sure feel like an idiot doing it. |
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Dave Mudgett
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 11:20 am
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Depends on what you mean by "good". Personally, I'm 100% with Theresa on this - mo' geetars and steel for me, thanks.
We'll never know whether or not the countrypolitan thing was a good business decision - they came to the fork in the road and they took it. You never know the outcome of the road not traveled. Who's to say they couldn't have had equal or more success with the hard-honkytonk sound. Didn't seem to hurt Buck and Merle any.
But one thing I do believe - by moving to the easy listening format, they put in with a musical style that was dying with everybody but (much) older listeners. It may have been expedient for them at the time (or maybe not), but I think if they had persisted long-term with Mantovani-like string arrangements, country music would have completely faded into obscurity, and nobody would care even now.
My opinions. |
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Rick Campbell
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 11:49 am
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Maybe this was Band In A Box version 1956 or so.
Barry is right, Ray missed the lip sync. It is fun to watch these things and catch them in the act. I don't know why they do it, or if it's justified or not. I just know I don't like to see people lip sync or sing to tracks. I have noticed that in recent years, they often hold the mic so close to their lips and I think it may be an attempt to hide the lip sync mistakes. Oh well, life and music goes on and on.
Does anyone know if there was ever a case of lip sync on the Opry? I hope not. |
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 11:50 am
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Depends on what you mean by "good". Personally, I'm 100% with Theresa on this - mo' geetars and steel for me, thanks.
We'll never know whether or not the countrypolitan thing was a good business decision - they came to the fork in the road and they took it. You never know the outcome of the road not traveled. Who's to say they couldn't have had equal or more success with the hard-honkytonk sound. Didn't seem to hurt Buck and Merle any.
But one thing I do believe - by moving to the easy listening format, they put in with a musical style that was dying with everybody but (much) older listeners. It may have been expedient for them at the time (or maybe not), but I think if they had persisted long-term with Mantovani-like string arrangements, country music would have completely faded into obscurity, and nobody would care even now.
My opinions. |
SO I'm reading this thread, and in my mind I'm thinkin' about it all, then Dave goes and post just about exactly what I was thinkin'. You must be a mind reader Mr. Mudgett!
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Ellis Miller
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 1:15 pm
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| Theresa Galbraith wrote: |
| I loved Ray with guitar and more steel! |
Having been a Ray Price fan for many years, my favorite albums of his were produced in the early to mid 1960s. "Another Bridge to Burn", "The Other Woman" and "Night Life" were among them. These albums were very sparse with Emmons and/or Day on steel, Grady Martin on guitar, a basic Nashville rhythm section and a harmony singer from time to time. Ray was wonderful, the songs were stellar and when the names Emmons, Day and Martin are mentioned, nothing else needs to be said.
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Rick Campbell
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 3:49 pm
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| Ellis Miller wrote: |
| Theresa Galbraith wrote: |
| I loved Ray with guitar and more steel! |
Having been a Ray Price fan for many years, my favorite albums of his were produced in the early to mid 1960s. "Another Bridge to Burn", "The Other Woman" and "Night Life" were among them. These albums were very sparse with Emmons and/or Day on steel, Grady Martin on guitar, a basic Nashville rhythm section and a harmony singer from time to time. Ray was wonderful, the songs were stellar and when the names Emmons, Day and Martin are mentioned, nothing else needs to be said. |
Tommy Jackson didn't do too bad on those records. |
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Ellis Miller
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 4:11 pm
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| Rick Campbell wrote: |
| Ellis Miller wrote: |
| Theresa Galbraith wrote: |
| I loved Ray with guitar and more steel! |
Having been a Ray Price fan for many years, my favorite albums of his were produced in the early to mid 1960s. "Another Bridge to Burn", "The Other Woman" and "Night Life" were among them. These albums were very sparse with Emmons and/or Day on steel, Grady Martin on guitar, a basic Nashville rhythm section and a harmony singer from time to time. Ray was wonderful, the songs were stellar and when the names Emmons, Day and Martin are mentioned, nothing else needs to be said. |
Tommy Jackson didn't do too bad on those records. |
Yep! I should not have left out the fiddle. Again, a stellar performance by everyone involved.
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Glen Derksen
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 7:59 pm
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Well, I think Ray was able to pull it off just fine even if I prefer the fiddles and steel, but nobody can tell me that it was ok to do that with Hank Williams....certainly not!
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Glen Derksen
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 8:17 pm
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| *double post* |
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 9:48 pm
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I allways perfered steel and fiddles for Ray Price, But perfered Steinways and violins for Sinatra. DYK?BC.
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 10:01 pm
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I've listened to Ray Price a few times and I've concluded that his voice is too good for honky-tonk country music. His voice does not have the cowboy 'twang' that is so characteristic of honky-tonk singers.
When I think of honky-tonk singers the voices of Hank Williams, Earnest Tubb, and Lefty Frizzell come to mind.
The voices of Ray Price, Eddy Arnold, and Jim Reeves sound somewhere between country and pop, and the Nashville Sound suits them perfectly.
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Scott Shipley
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Posted 23 Jul 2009 10:08 pm
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IMHO, Ray Price is always great, over-produced or not.
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Charles Davidson
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Posted 24 Jul 2009 12:07 am
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Some say the Southern country twang just don't cut it,Guess that's the reason ole Hank NEVER made it,[OK don't throw rocks at me,just messing with ya'll] I love Ray Price in the pre For The Goodtimes days,But I KNOW why he did it,and don't BLAME him,The first was the music,the latter was the money.Heart aches by the Number,Don't get no better than that. DYK?BC.
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