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Topic: Where can I find Jon Graboff or Eric Heywood Copedents |
Adam Fischer
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2009 4:48 pm
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Hello all,
I'm new to the forum and to the pedal steel. I saw the copedent resources linked here, but does anyone know, or know where I might be able to find (or figure out) Jon Graboff (The Cardinals) or Eric Heywood copedents? Thanks in advance. |
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 16 Jul 2009 5:03 pm
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Jon is a member here, so you could just pm or email him through his profile. Not sure about Eric. _________________ Jackson Steel Guitars
Web: www.chrisledrew.com |
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Adam Fischer
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2009 5:17 pm
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thanks, ill try that |
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Rich Peterson
From: Moorhead, MN
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Jon Graboff
From: Santa Fe, New Mexico
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Posted 17 Jul 2009 3:05 pm
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hmmm… I've never been asked for my copedant before. well… it's not particularly interesting but here it is:
First of all, it's The usual 10 string E9 tuning and I use Jagwire strings which I like a lot. The Lloyd Green set with the wound 6th string. I don't like to "boing" of a plain 6th and the wound stirn growls real nice.
the usual A,B and C pedal emmons style order and the left knees do the "normal" stuff: LKL raises 4 and 8 and half step and LKR lowers 4 and 8 a half step. and the vertical lever lowers 5 an 10 a half step.
the right knees are: RKL lowers the 2nd string a whole step with a half stop triggered by lowering the 9th a half step. On my JCH, RKL also raises 7 a half stop but the feel was a little too stiff on my Show-Pro so I do without it.
that's it. pretty simple. thanks for asking. Jon |
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Adam Fischer
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2009 9:25 pm
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Wow,
Thanks very much, Jon. It is much appreciated. |
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Greg Gefell
From: Upstate NY
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Jon Graboff
From: Santa Fe, New Mexico
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Posted 20 Jul 2009 10:33 am
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Oops! yes I do have and use a RKR. It raises the 1st string a half step and lowers the 6th string a half step. thanks for bring the omission to my attention! JG |
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Bill Rowlett
From: Russellville, AR, USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2011 9:04 pm
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Jon,
Why did it take me so long to listen to you? Some really tasteful steel playing on your 2005 YouTube gigs with Ryan. Keep it up, you're making us proud and bringing steel to a whole different crowd.
Bill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMoYIgGSNxc&feature=related |
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Malcolm McMaster
From: Beith Ayrshire Scotland
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Posted 8 Aug 2011 10:37 am
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You will also find some great playing by Jon on earlier Laura Cantrell recordings, and if my memory serves me well I believe it was on his old Shobud.Give me a shout when you are back in Scotland Jon, hope all is well with you.Malcolm _________________ MSA Millenium SD10, GK MB200, Sica 12inch cab, Joyo American Sound Pedal/ Jay Ganz Straight Ahead amp, Telonics 15inch in Peavey cab, Digitech RP150, Peterson tuner.Hilton volume pedal.Scott Dixon seat and guitar flight case. |
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Brett Lanier
From: Madison, TN
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Posted 8 Aug 2011 7:49 pm
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I absolutely love what Jon played on disc 2 of Cold Roses by Ryan Adams & the Cardinals (that's all I have). Especially the songs Easy Plateau and Rosebud. I don't think anyone could have played it better. |
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Bill Kellum
From: Water Valley, MS
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Posted 9 Aug 2011 8:21 am
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Brett Lanier wrote: |
I absolutely love what Jon played on disc 2 of Cold Roses by Ryan Adams & the Cardinals (that's all I have). Especially the songs Easy Plateau and Rosebud. I don't think anyone could have played it better. |
I believe that's Cindy Cashdollar playing steel. Graboff's first album with the Cards was Jacksonville City Nights if I remember right. But yes, it is really awesome what Cindy plays. Check out Jacksonville City Nights. Really nice stuff on there too. |
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Brett Lanier
From: Madison, TN
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Posted 9 Aug 2011 9:38 am
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Thanks for that info Bill. Sorry to get off topic, but is that a stringmaster that she plays? That tone is incredible. |
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Stefan Roller
From: Germany
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Posted 9 Aug 2011 2:45 pm
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I think, that Eric Heywood is playing a 11-string Williams. My friend and fellow forumite Tucker Jackson informed me, that Eric raises the first string to G# instead of G. (You can hear it on Son Volt songs like "Windfall"). Best regards, Stefan |
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John McClung
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 9:20 pm
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So...anyone know Eric Heywood's complete 11-string copedent? Or where to find it? _________________ E9 INSTRUCTION
▪️ If you want to have an ongoing discussion, please email me, don't use the Forum messaging which I detest! steelguitarlessons@earthlink.net |
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John Larson
From: Pennsyltucky, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2022 5:51 am
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I know it's an old thread but I'd be very interested in what Eric's complete copedant is.
Not sure about the 1st string info. It seems in the Son Volt Austin City Limits vids he's using finger pulls behind the bar.
Check out "Left a Slide" https://youtu.be/Za64md-Ax7E which has one of the best overdriven PSG tones I've ever heard. It's possible he simply didn't have this change on his Williams D-10. _________________ Rejoice in the Lord, O ye righteous; praise is meet for the upright. Give praise to the Lord with the harp, chant unto Him with the ten-stringed psaltery. Sing unto Him a new song, chant well unto Him with jubilation. For the word of the Lord is true, and all His works are in faithfulness. The Lord loveth mercy and judgement; the earth is full of the mercy of the Lord.
- Psalm 33:1-5 |
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Tucker Jackson
From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 27 Dec 2022 11:39 am
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John Larson wrote: |
I know it's an old thread but I'd be very interested in what Eric's complete copedant is.
Not sure about the 1st string info. It seems in the Son Volt Austin City Limits vids he's using finger pulls behind the bar. |
Yeah, finger pulls here for sure. I retract my prior comments from 11 years ago -- hadn't seen this video and was basing it all on various audio of him playing, just hearing a whole-tone raise on that 1st string. |
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Mike Romero
From: Bakersfield, CA
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Posted 27 Dec 2022 11:59 am
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John, thank you posting this amazing video. Unreal. |
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Ryan Knudson
From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2023 1:23 pm
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Yes, thanks for that Son Volt video! I don't want to derail the copedant topic, but does anyone have any recommendations for getting close to that gorgeous overdriven tone? |
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John Larson
From: Pennsyltucky, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2023 7:58 pm
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Ryan Knudson wrote: |
Yes, thanks for that Son Volt video! I don't want to derail the copedant topic, but does anyone have any recommendations for getting close to that gorgeous overdriven tone? |
In the Son Volt days Eric was using a Vox AC-50 head and a 2x12 cabinet, there looks to be a Goodrich Matchbox clipped to his Williams D10 in the Son Volt vids.
Nowadays he plays a Williams SD-11 (Adds a low E) and uses a Sarno Earth Driver for his gain tone.
Any "transparent" OD will do the trick, it helps if it has a good tone control that you can mellow out the high frequencies so it isn't piercing.
I use a Aion Azimuth clone of a Zendrive (Dumblesque, think David Lindley on Jackson Browne's "Running on Empty"). It gets in the ballpark of Eric's tone to my ears, it would probably be closer if I had a humbucker in my guitar and had a tube preamp. _________________ Rejoice in the Lord, O ye righteous; praise is meet for the upright. Give praise to the Lord with the harp, chant unto Him with the ten-stringed psaltery. Sing unto Him a new song, chant well unto Him with jubilation. For the word of the Lord is true, and all His works are in faithfulness. The Lord loveth mercy and judgement; the earth is full of the mercy of the Lord.
- Psalm 33:1-5 |
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