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Topic: What is the lightest D-10 on the steel market now? |
Terry Sneed
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Posted 11 Jul 2009 10:27 pm |
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I know Carter and GFI are suppose to be light. But how much lighter than my Mullen RP D-10. Anybody know right off hand, the difference in weight of these three steels?
Maybe I could go to an S-12 uni? I like the Fessy 12 string with pad for sale, or the carter 12, but it don't have a pad. My ole back is just about wore out.
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Bob Adams
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Scotland, UK
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Posted 12 Jul 2009 5:00 am
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| The GFI is rated to be the lightest I think but I have a Williams u12 and it is 'impressively light' and does the biz on all fronts. |
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2009 7:51 am
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Historically, I think that the Sierra Artist was probably the lightest, with its all-aluminum body and Wheel-Eez case. It's been out of production for nearly a decade, though.
Williams 600 series keyless is probably in the running, though not the crossover model. The crossover has a lot of additional hardware underneath.
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Joe A. Camacho
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Posted 12 Jul 2009 8:41 am
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Mike Poholsky
From:
Kansas, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2009 8:46 am
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The back is nothing to mess with. Unfortunately, we have chosen one of the heaviest instruments to carry around in order to be able to play out with other people. I have never owned a double neck guitar, mainly because I had back surgery early on and could see that lugging around a double neck guitar was not going to be feasible. For me the Universal is a great compromise. All the changes that I need are on my guitar. I don't think I have enough time left in my life, to master what is there right now. I've been considering getting a new case that would hold the steel body only, and getting some kind of gig bag for the legs, pedal bar and rods. That would make it rediculously light. My vote, go Uni! It will probably allow you to stay mobile longer. 
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John Phinney
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Long Beach California, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2009 8:46 am
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GFI website
Scroll down below the image to see the weights for the different GFI models.
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Hook Moore
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2009 9:02 am
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as I recall Mike Perlowin and I were discussing comparative weights of the GFI S-10 and Milly and the GFI was slightly lighter.
I will say this - I play mostly whacked-out modified Fenders but also have a GFI Ultra in a convoluted version of my B6 copedent. Yesterday I threw my back out and had rehearsal last night. There was absolutely no way I could have lifted one of the Fenders, even assembled - so I put the Ultra together (I rotate them about every month or so) and was able to handle it.
It reminds me a lot of vintage Fender Teles and Strats (and maybe Gene thought along these lines) - lighter swamp ash guitars are coveted for their resonance/tone, and the Ultra is extremely light with a stong, very "present" sound.
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2009 7:16 pm
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| My GFI Ultra SD-10 and Williams 400 Series SD-10 are virtually identical in weight. |
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 12 Jul 2009 8:00 pm weigh
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| I've been considering getting a new case that would hold the steel body only, and getting some kind of gig bag for the legs, pedal bar and rods. That would make it rediculously light. |
I thought about that also. But to have a split case made, one for my Mullen D-10 body, and another for the pedal bar, rods, and legs would cost over $300.
Can't afford that.
We had a singing today, and I tried taking my pedal bar, rods, and legs out of my case, leaving only the body, and it helped a lot. The case is not near as heavey with only the D-10 body in it. But, it's still a little to much weight for me to be carrying. I think it would be ok if it wadn't for that extra
space where the leg and rod pouch goes. Might try to make me one. Probly be easier just to get a GFI or a Willy. |
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Jimmie Martin
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 3:24 am light
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Heavy ole cases.  |
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Jay Ganz
From:
Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 6:35 am
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I haul my old '69 Emmons D-10 around in a padded gig bag. It's really for a small keyboard, but it's perfect. Only 30 lbs.
I made a flat wooden box for the legs, rods, and pedal bar (12lbs). I think the bag was around $25 or so.
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Malcolm McMaster
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Beith Ayrshire Scotland
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 6:47 am
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| I had Mullen D10 that weighed in at 32kgs in the case(the max that airlines will take), loved the guitar, but after two slipped discs in two years it had to go.I now have a Milly SD10, and picked up a Scott Dixon lightweight case which is about 3kgs lighter than the Texas wheeled case it came with.I use this for flying or if it has to go in van.If it is a local gig body of Milly goes in a heavily padded Carter Starter bag, with a seperate case for pedal rack, on back seat of my car.What a difference I can pick guitar up with a couple of fingers, no strain on old back.Just working on how to get amp lighter.I realise this is not to everyones taste for transporting guitar,but it works for me. |
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 7:03 am
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| I hope you don't mind if I get a little off topic. My Sierra D- 10 is very heavy and I used to play it through a Vox AC 30, (I have an Evans now) also a monstrum. About 10 years ago we had a gig in a prison. We put our stuff in the elevator who's door was about 30 meters away from the stage. There were inmates there to help us carry. One big guy came, took the steel and! the amp, carried it to the stage and even lifted them up on stage. I never fogot that. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2009 7:05 am
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I can't understand why more case makers don't use materials like Thomas or Hatton. I am not a big fan of those fuzzy cases made out of 3/4" plywood.
Talk about heavy!!!
I recently got a Thomas case and he uses a simulated leather cover on his cases and it is VERY attractive, and light too.  |
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