Slim Idaho

Walter Stettner · From: Vienna, Austria

What a great player he was! He left us way too early.

Here's a track that features Slim as a member of Cowboy Copas' band. Fiddle player is Red Herron, but does anybody know who the guitar player is?

http://www.lloydgreentribute.com/AustrianSteelguitar/Forum.htm

Kind Regards, Walter
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Roger Shackelton · From: MINNESOTA (deceased)

HI WALTER,

It sounds like he calls the guitar player, "Junior Boy" Might be Junior Barnard.??

WOW! This is some Hot Western Swiing picking.

ROGER

Mitch Drumm · From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake

Walter:

Assuming you are talking about "Jamboree", this was your clip of the week about 18 months ago and the question was answered here:

http://tinyurl.com/nawswy

He also played on Copas' "I'm Tired Of Playing Santa Claus To You" and on several recordings with Paul Howard. All of these are among his very earliest recordings, circa 1947.

Walter Stettner · From: Vienna, Austria

Looks like I'm getting old! Embarassed

I had totally forgotten about that I had already posted this clip before and about the responses. But it is a great track that is always fun listening to. Thanks for the reminder, Mitch!

Maybe some of the experts of the era, like Roy Ayres and Billy Tonnessen might chime in on this one, too.

Best Regards, Walter
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Roy Ayres · From: Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.

Hi Walter. Thanks for the clip. Slim Idaho recordings are very rare. (Incidentally, his real name was "Dewey Adderhold.")

Hank Garland was originally called "Junior Garland" when he first came to the Opry in the mid 40's. He was later dubbed "Sugarfoot Garland" then later went by his actual name "Hank." The guitar player is likely him. Using the first few notes from old standards in his choruses was a common thing for Hank.

When Pee Wee King moved us from Nashville to Louisville, Cope stayed behind, and Hank was there at that time -- so the era is right for it to be Hank.

Here's a picture of Hank taken three or four years later. By then he was jamming in New York with guys like Charlie Parker.

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Walter Stettner · From: Vienna, Austria

Roy,

Thanks so much for your input. I have always considered it to be a privilege to be on the same forum with musicians that actually made the history we are talking about fifty or sixty years later. Smile

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John Thomas · From: Gainesville, Georgia, USA

I believe the guitar player was Junior (Junebug) Thomas who also played with Slim Idaho in Paul Howard's Arkansas Cotton Pickers. Hank Garland followed him in that band which also had Walter Haynes on fiddle.

Roy Ayres · From: Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.

I received a reply from Kelso Herston. We were ALL wrong. Here's his reply:

Walter Stettner · From: Vienna, Austria

Thanks, Roy!

Consider all the efforts that were made to find that out - from Roy to Kelso to Bob and all the way back... Very Happy

Best Regards, Walter
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Mitch Drumm · From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake

Hmmmmm......., guitarist named here is Jethro Burns, no sign of Bob Moore. Check the date, I don't think Bob was on the recording scene in early 1947. King 688 certainly dates from before 1950. Didn't Marshall Barnes later play for Bill Carlisle?

Walter: do you have Copas Bear Family CD 16990?

It has a 40 page booklet and Jamboree is on it. I am guessing session details are included, but they may replicate what is below?

http://countrydiscography.blogspot.com/search/label/Copas%20Cowboy

February 1947 King Recording Studio, 1540 Brewster Ave., Cincinnati, OH – Cowboy Copas (Jethro Burns [gt], Homer Haynes [rh gt], Slim Idaho [steel], Marshall Barnes [bass], Red Herron [fiddle].
Producer: Sydney Nathan)

021 K2348 WHERE YOU GOIN’ 755/MLP201
022 K2349 THINGS ARE GONNA BE DIFFERENT 605
023 K2350 MY BLUES ARE GONE 45-5638/LP824
024 K2351 BREEZE, BLOW MY BABY BACK TO ME 591 618 45-5734/LP553 LP835 WESF 115 AJA 5434
025 K2352 BELOW THE MASON DIXON LINE LP850 LP984 WESF 115 BCD 16990 (34)
026 K2353 IT’S A LONELY WORLD (WHEN YOU’RE ALL) 45-5515 45-5544/LP850 AJA 5434
027 K2354 DON’T LET THEM CHANGE YOUR MIND 45-5515 45-5544/LP850 LP984 AJA 5434 BCD 16990 (32)
028 K2355 I’LL PAY THE PRICE (THE REST OF MY LIFE) 45-1040/LP720 BCD 16990 (17)
029 K2356 ARE YOU HONEST 657 BCD 16990(27)
030 K2357 DOUBLE TROUBLE (ON MY MIND) LP850 LP984 Westside [UK] WESF 115
031 K2358 WOULD BE BETTER FOR US BOTH 666/LP714 LP994
032 K2359 TOO MANY TEARDROPS 743/LP824
033 K2360 JAMBOREE 688 EP295/AL1568 BCD 16990 (9)
034 K2361 I’M TIRED OF PLAYING SANTA CLAUS TO YOU 688

This same source says Garland played on a March 1947 session that resulted in Roly Poly; Opportunity Is Knocking At Your Door; Signed, Sealed, and Delivered; and Honky Tonkin'.

Edit:

Here is a pic of the back of the CD, showing a date of 1948 for Jamboree; I would assume that is a release date, not recording date. I found this on the Internet, but could not find a pic of the booklet inside to verify anything:

http://www.rocky-52.net/chanteursc/copas_c.htm

The above source gives a date of January, 1948.

Walter Stettner · From: Vienna, Austria

No, I don't have that one but that is interesting. I know that it is sometimes terribly difficult to get the information as so much is based on the memory of musicians who had long recording careers, with lots of different locations, fellow musicians and studios.

Kind Regards, Walter
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