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Topic: My Favorite Steel Lick Desert Rose Hello Trouble |
JR Ross
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 19 Jun 2009 8:49 am |
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| INO, Jay Dee Maness is one of the best ever!!! Maybe someday I'll get to see him again in person. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 19 Jun 2009 10:47 am
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| That song makes my knuckles bleed just thinking about it. I used to have to play it. Of course, I never quite got JayDee's licks down. |
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Peter Freiberger
From:
California, USA
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 21 Jun 2009 11:23 am
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That was great DRB stuff, no doubt.
My only beef with it, though, is they didn't give JD a ride in the middle. He got robbed.
In Buck's version, the steeler lays down a great break; and rightfully so. That song is made for a steeler to let her rip.
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 21 Jun 2009 12:14 pm
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| Chip Fossa wrote: |
| In Buck's version, the steeler lays down a great break. |
I really like the steel solo in Buck's version, but I hate the tone. It sounds more like a Tele with the tone control full out, not a PSG. Maybe it's a Fender PSG. I read somewhere that Tom Brumley played a Fender before he went to ZB.
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 21 Jun 2009 12:47 pm
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| Thats true Leslie. Its a Fender. |
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Sonny Jenkins
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Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 21 Jun 2009 1:22 pm
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| That Tele in the clip looks like one of the two that Buck had custom made for himself and Don Rich. |
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Chip Fossa
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Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 21 Jun 2009 2:04 pm
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That steeler on Buck's "Hello Trouble" is not Tom Brumley.
It's Buck's steeler before or after Tom (not sure).
I actually love that steel sound.
I was turned onto this, and never previously aware of it, by Donny Hinson.
He had a very post on "a different steel sound" than what we are all hearing today.
I'm sorry that I don't recall the name of the steeler playing on Buck's "Hello Trouble".
Donny's post was maybe 1-2 months ago. I'm sure someone can dig it up, and/or maybe Donny will chime in.
I like BOTH steel tones, guy-ohs.
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 21 Jun 2009 7:21 pm
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IIRC that was Mooney on Hello Trouble playing an old Fender.. If you guys are talking down Moons playing and the tone of Fender steels, you'll meet with some resistance.. bob
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 21 Jun 2009 11:08 pm
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| Bob Carlucci wrote: |
| IIRC that was Mooney on Hello Trouble playing an old Fender.. If you guys are talking down Moons playing and the tone of Fender steels, you'll meet with some resistance.. bob |
No I'm not trying to dis the steeler. I like his playing, but I don't like the sound of his guitar. It's way too tinny and twangy sounding for a PSG. If that's what those old Fender PSGs sound like, I don't care for them.
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 22 Jun 2009 3:04 pm
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| so i guess you guys haven't noticed that jeff newman would be yelling at jaydee for holding his right hand non-alpha. no wonder he can hardly pick!! |
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 23 Jun 2009 1:20 pm
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BITiY8M_oDo |
Not bad.
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqxq6xqoXI |
Tinny.
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz6KzGeEX6o |
Video won't load.
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkNsqdGm0wo&feature=related |
Sound quality of video is too muffled.
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 23 Jun 2009 2:14 pm
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My CD of "My Heart Skips a Beat/Together Again", which is my fave Buck Owens CD, lists Tom Brumley as the steel player on "Hello Trouble". Great steel sound in my book, though obviously not to everybody's taste.
Some of my favoutite Brumley playing, and tone, is on "Close Up the Honky Tonks" on the same CD. I love the steel sound on that tune. It is bright for sure, but also has great complexity, for lack of a better word, to it's sound. It's a bigger,fatter sound than say Mooney was getting a few years earlier...Jerry |
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Chip Fossa
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Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 23 Jun 2009 3:09 pm
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OK - "Hello Trouble"
Here's Buck's version with the steeler Donny Hinson was referring to. I think his first name was Bob.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1FSxaFY5Pw
On YouTube there is also a later video of Buck doing HT on HeeHaw, and the steeler looks like JD Maness, and sounds like him, too.
Now, what's not to like hear? 
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Dan E. Hoff
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Blue Springs, Missouri, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2009 5:21 pm
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| I have a recording of Lou Houston playing the song, ''Hello Trouble, live....His playing technique on that tune will just about knock your socks off...Unique.... |
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 23 Jun 2009 7:59 pm
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| Chip Fossa wrote: |
OK - "Hello Trouble"
Here's Buck's version with the steeler Donny Hinson was referring to. I think his first name was Bob.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1FSxaFY5Pw
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That is the version I'm referring to. The steel sounds extremely bright and twangy like a Fender Telecaster with the tone control full out.
I read somewhere that some of the old Fender PSGs came with small single coil pickups like those found on the Jaguar. I'll bet that was the type of guitar used on the recording.
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 23 Jun 2009 8:05 pm
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| That Fender sound is what made me fall in love with steel. Those Brumley clips are not tinny at all. |
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 7:47 am
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| So...is Tom Brumley's first name Bob? Bob does a nice job on that tune!...Jerry |
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 1:32 pm
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| J Fletcher wrote: |
| So...is Tom Brumley's first name Bob? Bob does a nice job on that tune!...Jerry |
No Bob on that recording. I checked the album credits, and Jay McDonald and Tom Brumley played steel on that record. Both McDonald and Brumley had Fender 1000s at the time.
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J Fletcher
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London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 1:54 pm
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Tom Brumley on "Hello Trouble", Jay MacDonald on "Truck Drivin' Man" if I recall correctly. Ralph Mooney on "Save the last dance for me". All from the same CD, which has tunes from four or five different recording sessions, spread over three or four years. The CD, or LP being, "My Heart Skips a Beat/ Together Again". My favourite Buck Owens CD!
Don't know who "Bob" is...Jerry |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 4:44 pm
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| Leslie Ehrlich wrote: |
| Chip Fossa wrote: |
OK - "Hello Trouble"
Here's Buck's version with the steeler Donny Hinson was referring to. I think his first name was Bob.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1FSxaFY5Pw
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That is the version I'm referring to. The steel sounds extremely bright and twangy like a Fender Telecaster with the tone control full out. |
Yes, Leslie......a Marshall stack will get you closer to REAL pedal steel tone!  Just ribbin' ya!
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Fish
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 6:59 pm
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Leslie, I respect your opinion. The brighter Fender steel sound is an acquired taste, but once you adjust to it you will find that it has incredible character, depth and soul.
To me, the ultra-bright sound of the Fender Pedal Steel Guitar is one of the most spine-tingling, jaw-dropping, inherently "Western" sounds ever invented. It is the "high lonesome desert sound" of all the great California country artists of the late 50's and early 60's. When I hear it, I reach immediately for a cocktail and play records (very loudly) by Wynn Stewart, Merle Haggard, Buck Owens, Waylon Jennings and that great mad genius (all respect intended) Peter Kleinow, otherwise known as Sneaky Pete. The FBB's "Sin City" is one of the most fascinating steel guitar tracks ever recorded. I've listened to it hundreds of times and never grow tired of it.
Leo Fender really knocked the cover off of the ball with the Fender Pedal Steel, as he also did with Telecasters, Stratocasters, Precision & Jazz basses, Tweed and Black-face series amps, and more. They are weird to play and to hear the first time, but they embody special qualities rarely heard in modern steel guitar tone.
Of course, my other steel guitar is a Zumsteel.  |
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 25 Jun 2009 12:44 am
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Just for the record, I don't hate Fender PSGs. I've heard some pretty wild hard rock sounds out of them too. If I had a Fender PSG I'd find some way to make it sing. 
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