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Topic: 7th Chords |
Robin Archer
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Califon, , USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2009 5:28 am |
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Sorry but this is a dumb question I'm afraid but this is driving me nuts!
When ever I think I'm playing a 7th chord it dosen't seem to sound right.
If I'm in C on the 8th fret, no petals, what fret and strings do I hit to hear C7th before going to the F chord.
How bout 3rd fret with A,B down?
I'm sure there are several options on a Carter Starter, E9th.
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Nathan Golub
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Durham, NC
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Posted 22 Jun 2009 5:43 am
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Lotsa options, here are some of the ones I use-
E-F pedal three frets up from the no pedals position (start with the F lever & A pedal & release the A pedal to get your dominant 7th note)
A pedal two frets back from no pedals position (if you're on strings 4 & 5, release the A pedal and drop your E's a half step to get to your 4 chord)
E-Eb lever and the B pedal two frets back from the AB position (release both to get your 4 chord)
At the no pedals position, grab your 9th string and any of the major chord inversions to get the dominant 7th note in the bass. If you can lower your 9th string a whole tone, this will get you the major 3rd of your 4 chord.
When in doubt, back up two frets from your major chord position. It'll get you some version of the dominant 7th chord.
Hope this helps! |
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Larry Lorows
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Zephyrhills,Florida, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2009 5:57 am
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Hi Robin, At the eighth frett, I like dropping down to the six frett and use the A pedal. Strings 1,4,5,7,9, and 10. If you hit Strings 3 or 6, you make it a ninth chord.
You could hit strings 4,5,7, for the seventh chord and then lower your 4th string and have a C6th chord, before going into your F chord.
Hope this works. Larry
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Walter Glockler
From:
Northern New Mexico
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Posted 22 Jun 2009 6:52 am
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| No pedals - lower 2nd string a half tone. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2009 7:04 am
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Hit the 9th string with your thumb pick.  |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 22 Jun 2009 8:58 pm
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It's very common to play strings 3 & 5, no pedals at the 8th fret, sliding down to the sixth fret and hit the A pedal. As Larry mentioned above, it actually becomes the 9Th and the root. I never in thirty eight years had it occurred to me that I was playing the 9th tone. It just works great as a 7th type of move and great for melody playing. Of course, the same hold true for string 5 & 6 using the A pedal and playing at the 6th fret. Thanks for the technical heads up Larry.
Now, for the adventurous, you can use strings 3 & 5 at the 8th fret, hit your A pedal, and slant the butt of the bar forward to the 9th fret, leaving the nose on the 8th fret, and you get a wonderful melodic movement taking the 5 of the chord and moving it to the b7th tone.
EDITED to correct a mistake in first paragraph.
Last edited by Richard Sinkler on 24 Jun 2009 4:43 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 23 Jun 2009 7:13 am
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If you've got a knee lever that lowers 5 and 10 a half tone you can also slide from fret 8 to 6 and engage that........
Also with the A & B pedals down you can slide back two frets and apply the E lever (lowering the E strings a half tone) and either release the A pedal or keep it engaged, works both ways......
On an E9/B9 universal you have a pedal that raises the 5th and 6th strings a whole tone each. I don't have a C pedal per se so I have that one next to my B pedal. You can slid back two frets while engaging that pedal. It gives you the impression that you're lowering the E string(s) a whole tone for a 7th chord. With a little practice you can get it very smooth...........JH in Va.
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John Polstra
From:
Lopez Island, WA, USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 1:32 pm
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| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| It's very common to play strings 3 & 3, no pedals at the 8th fret, sliding down to the sixth fret and hit the A pedal. As Larry mentioned above, it actually becomes the 9Th and the root. |
Which strings, Richard? I can't figure out what you meant to type instead of "3 & 3".
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 4:44 pm
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| Sorry John, I saw the mistake and changed it. |
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Bo Borland
From:
South Jersey -
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 5:11 pm
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looks like my modem stuttered
Last edited by Bo Borland on 24 Jun 2009 6:27 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Bo Borland
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Posted 24 Jun 2009 5:15 pm
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In the interest of keeping it very simple...
Best thing to do is learn your scales, in any key the 7th (dominant) is a flatted 7th.
Learn the do-re mi scales.
Play your C chord at fret 8 strings 5 6 & 8 then 5 6 and 9 ( c maj & c7) find the same notes at fret 11 and 13 and 8 using a different grip and the e & f levers.
Then find the same notes 1-3-b7 every other place you can. Use string #2 also if you can lower it a 1/2 step.
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