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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 26 Jun 2009 4:02 am    
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Hi all,

I just picked up a Digitech Genesis 3 mfx unit off Craigslist. In order to get relative level volume at the amp, I need to turn up the output level on the back panel all the way, but this produces an overwhelming amount of hiss. I have the gain turned all the way up, but, frankly, adjusting it up or down makes no difference in the hiss. Any suggestions before I contact the seller about a refund?

Thanks,

Dan
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 26 Jun 2009 4:37 am     Hmmmmm....
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Well,

I may have "solved" this by engaging the compressor and turning the gain up there. I recall that I had to do this with my Pod as well to get normal volumes. Why do they design these things to require the compressor???
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Bob Martin


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Post  Posted 27 Jun 2009 3:32 am    
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Hi Dan, most effects preform much more quietly if they are inserted into the effects loop of the amp if your amp has one but I will say that the Genesis 3 if that's the one have did very good for me just plugged into the front end of my amp.

One thing that I have noticed with a lot of multi effects units is the cumulative effect of several effects inside the unit. Like having a compressor, chorus, delay, eq and other effects that have level controls. So what happens is that once you start turning up the output levels of each effect they all end up at the output with lots of level adding to the overall noise floor of the unit.

Obviously I don't know how many effects you are running so if this isn't relative in your situation please disregard.

If you are just running 1 or 2 effects here is what a lot of folks try to do to keep the noise floor down to a bearable level. Try to turn down the output on the back of the Genesis to about 1/2 way and crank up your amp to get enough volume. Now keep in mind your amp has to be one that doesn't create a lot of noise turned up at high volumes. Some amps do and some don't.

So I was just trying to offer some tips that might help hopefully I was offering some suggestions that was helpful Smile

Bob
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 27 Jun 2009 4:29 am    
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Do you have the amp volumes all the way up - the "amp level" knob over at the right side? Have you configured it for the "Target System Setup" shown on p. 32 of the manual? You have to choose output levels with this, based on whether it's going into a board, the front of an amp or in the effects loop. Mine is almost too loud, I have to keep those amp level knobs down at half or so.
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 27 Jun 2009 8:09 am    
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Hi guys,
thanks for the tips. I only have two effects engaged and I get the hiss even with none engaged. I think I have it configured fro going into the front of the amp but I'll take another look. As I said, with the compressor gain up there's enouh volume; I'd just rather not use the compressor if I don't have to.

Thanks,

Dan
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Post  Posted 27 Jun 2009 8:15 am     Doh!!!
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My bad!

I had set the target system set up for "Direct," which seemd to make sense for going right into an amp....until I noticed that they had specific settings for varius combo amp types. Direct obviously is for into a board or digital device. I set it for my 112 combo and that did indeed make a big difference in the volume. Thanks David!

Dan
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