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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 30 Nov 2008 1:19 pm    
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Starting some pics early. I got the end plates welded today and I thought the guy did such a great job that I wanted to show y'all. Four end plates were done in 3 hours flat so he's fast too. And reasonable, wow! I was very happy with what he charged me for this job.
The welder's name is John Doucet.


Here's a new pic after I got my screw-up fixed.
Should be ok now eh Martin?



The welds on the front were not leveled but left high so that I can finish to an invisible finish.


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Martin Weenick


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Post  Posted 30 Nov 2008 2:52 pm     End Plates
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Bent, how do you get the deck of the guitar to the outside flange on the end plate? The inside flange where you screw the apron on seems to run all the way to the top. Should the inside flange not be about 3/4 of an inch shorter so the top deck can go over it all the way to the outside flange? Martin.
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 30 Nov 2008 5:41 pm    
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Oh man, you're right Martin. How stupid of me. An oversight that I never thought of. Well not too late to change it. Just a bit of grinding and re-welding.
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Martin Weenick


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Post  Posted 30 Nov 2008 10:39 pm     End Plate
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No re-weld needed, you should be able to machine off enough of the inside flange to match the thickness of your top deck and still have plenty of support for the aprons on the inside. Martin.
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 5 Dec 2008 8:49 pm    
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Martin Weenick


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Post  Posted 5 Dec 2008 11:30 pm     End Plates
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Looks OK now. Nice job. Martin.
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 9 Dec 2008 4:58 pm    
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Just thought I'd show you my pedals. I made the first one just now. Just the prototype. The rest of them will hopefully not have the tool marks. I gotta be more careful on the band saw.
That's what I used...band saw on most of it. Then a bit of hacksaw work to cut out the sides of the pedal.
In the side view you can see the little mark where the hole for the axle will be. The black marker mark in the top view shows where the hole for the ball joint will be.





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Bernie Gonyea


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Post  Posted 10 Dec 2008 8:05 pm     Bent's Big Construction Job Now Under Way
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Very Happy Whoa! Rolling Eyes

Good looking work; Looks a little naked right now, doesn't it, Bent. But you're getting there, slow, but sure.. What do you think of Stu's new Desert Rose? are you going to have a Lacqueor or Mica finish on your steel? Keep us posted..Bernie Laughing Whoa! Very Happy

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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2008 6:51 pm    
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Bernie, Stu's guitar looks top of the line. It's built by a pro.

Yes, my pedals look a bit naked yet..I still have to put axles in and also the ball joint. also, the nakedness might be due to the fact that there are no crosshatch on the pedal where the foot steps on it. I thought it looked so pretty with just a polished surface. Don't know if there will be a slippage problem. Time will tell I guess Smile

I liked the fact that I cut the whole pedal with only my band saw (and a LOT of sanding) out of 1X1" square aluminum bar.
edit:Oh by the way, I am a wood man all the way. It will be maple body of some sort. The necks will also be wood..haven't decided on types yet
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Ashley D\'Silva


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Post  Posted 11 Dec 2008 11:20 pm    
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Your efforts look real neat so far Bent.

Thanks for the Mail by the way. Received this today, Friday here in Perth. I am looking forward to your list so I may reciprocate.

I want to tell you that I built my first PSG whilst living in the UK back in the 70's (In the days when I could not afford to buy a real instrument). The design???? was based very loosley on the Shobud Maverick and a LDG, both of which I had access to so I could take measurements and drawings (Tracings).

Some of the parts used were from a Motorbike (knuckle joints from the cable linkage); Aluminium extrusion for Pedal Bar and Pedals were from a Double Glazing Window; Pull rods were threaded rods used to make industrial heating elements and rollers were gotten from an old Cloth Spinning Loom. All other parts were made from Steel or wood and I bought the P/U and Changer Fingers and casting from the US.

Mechanically it worked real good though it was noisy. Wish I had kept photos. Actually, at that time in the UK there was a Car being built called the Allegro and so I bought a Car badge and stuck it to my PSG...pretty apt I thought.

Just shows what we lovers of this great instrument would do to play the greatest instrument in the world.

Anyway, good luck with your make.

Regards

Ashley
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 12 Dec 2008 8:00 am    
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Ashley, glad you got my mail. I will send you a list when I get my head together. Right now it's all immersed in steel building.
Thanks for your compliments on my project.

Yes, it is quite amazing what lengths we will go to in order to build our beloved instrument. Imagine, getting parts from motor bikes and looms!
I am somewhat handicapped because I don't have a milling machine as yet. I know, Martin Weenick, I should have heeded your advice but it just isn't in my budget yet. And then the vises, cutters etc etc needed!
But it's still a lot of fun.
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 10 Feb 2009 4:18 pm    
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Somebody wanted to see some more pics so I put a bunch on Photobucket:
http://s389.photobucket.com/albums/oo332/Bent61/Steel%20Project%202/

Here are a couple of examples:


Please note: the wood is just a box made to measure for fitting parts



Vertical knee lever assembly. No parts are sanded or polished yet.
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Martin Weenick


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Post  Posted 10 Feb 2009 4:43 pm     2nd. attempt.
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Lookin good Bent !! I like your vertical knee lever. Is this the one you are going to send to England ??? Martin.
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Pat Comeau


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Post  Posted 10 Feb 2009 5:42 pm    
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Parts looking good Bent, Whoa!

Can't wait to see it all finish, Smile i know all the work one has to do to build a PSG but that's the fun of it when you know you made it yourself. Wink

keep us posted Bent.

PS= i've send you an email.

Pat C.
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Post  Posted 10 Feb 2009 6:32 pm    
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Hey Pat, I can hardly play one, muchless build one. Keep up the hard work, it must feel good playing a guitar you built yourself.

P.S- I love the videos on youtube of your other guitar you built.
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 10 Feb 2009 6:42 pm     Re: 2nd. attempt.
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Martin Weenick wrote:
Lookin good Bent !! I like your vertical knee lever. Is this the one you are going to send to England ??? Martin.

Martin, the parts that turn out the nicest gets put on the cabinet that turns out the nicest and that's the one that will go.
Thanks for the remark about the knee lever. I like it too.
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Bill Ford


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Post  Posted 11 Feb 2009 7:31 am    
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Bent,
Lookin good so far. Suggestion...if you intend to do production, I would replace the stud on your changer profiler with metal, also do you have a jig for bending the pedal rods(where they hook to pull down)? I made one that works really good. If you like, I will take pics, and send you along with dimensions. Hang in there,every time you do something, it looks better than the last time.

Bill
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Bent Romnes


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London,Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 11 Feb 2009 9:54 am    
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Bill, thanks so much for your words of support.
On the changer profiler..you are right and I did learn from experience...after a few fingers, I noticed a bit of slop in the wood dowel and replaced it with a piece of 1/2" bolt.
I would love to get some pics of your bending jig..I had trouble with that the first time.
I'll email you thru the forum so you'll have my email address.
Thanks again Bill.
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Pat Comeau


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Post  Posted 11 Feb 2009 2:05 pm    
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Hey Bill!!... i would appreciate those pictures of the jig also. Smile

thanks.................Pat.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIYiaomZx3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2GhZTN_yXI&feature=related
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 14 Feb 2009 9:22 pm    
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Bumping up to give you the Photobucket link again. A change was made, take a look

http://s389.photobucket.com/albums/oo332/Bent61/Steel%20Project%202/
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Bent Romnes


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London,Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 25 Mar 2009 5:46 pm    
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I'm putting changer fingers together. Tedious job when you don't have the right tools. But it's nice to see the thing take shape.




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Bent Romnes


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London,Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 8 Apr 2009 6:35 pm    
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Gotta start giving credits to the people who are helping me make parts that I don't have the tools to make myself.

Gary Lusk - machinist extraordinaire. I happened upon Gary through another hobbyist
Gary's eye for detail and accuracy is a sight to behold. I feel very fortunate having made Gary's acquaintance.



Here are some of the parts that Gary turned on his lathe: Changer shafts, gauged brass rollers and pedal shafts

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Pat Comeau


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Post  Posted 8 Apr 2009 7:02 pm    
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I'll say it again Bent Whoa! !...you're lucky to have those friends around Smile cause the're hard to find Sad

nice to see your # 2 project is coming together well.
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Click the links to listen to my Comeau's Pedal Steel Guitars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIYiaomZx3Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2GhZTN_yXI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvDTw2zNriI
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Ashley D\'Silva


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Post  Posted 8 Apr 2009 11:01 pm    
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Hi Bent,

Good work man!
When are you scheduled to complete...or is that too much to contemplate at this time.
I wish you all the best although it looks like your ability and desire will see you through.

Good luck mate!!

Ashley
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2009 6:52 am    
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Hi Ashley,
Thanks for taking an interest..It is always rewarding to see the level of interest, no matter where a person is from in this world. Y'all's kind words of support sure means a lot.

I don't have a scheduled completion date any closer than August 1st. That is because issues can and do crop up when an amateur attempts to take on something as big as a pedal steel.

As for completion so far: I have all the parts made(pretty near) for both steels. Metal parts that is. I have bought the wood (birdseye and hard maple)
And will start making the cabinets, necks and fret boards shortly.
-Then I have to build a make shift paint booth.
-Trial fit the parts in the cabinets, take it apart and finish the wood and then put the parts back in.
- Then I have to figure out where to get parts to make cases. That is new to me also.
Oh..here is a pic of the birdseye maple. Feast your eyes!!

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