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Topic: Help identify this steel. 5th Emmons ever built?? |
Ken Fox
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Nashville GA USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 11:53 am |
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My old customer claims this to be an Emmons, the 5th one ever built. Any ideas???
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 12:03 pm
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Maybe the fretboard!  |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 12:08 pm
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| Looks kind home made to me! |
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Russ Tkac
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Posted 11 May 2009 12:27 pm
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| Nice Fender 400 case. |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 12:30 pm
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| I had a hunch on the case! Now we are making progress. |
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 11 May 2009 12:53 pm
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| Oh yea, this is the rare Emmons "Roger Rabbit" model, as indicated by the headstock. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 12:59 pm
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| Very interesting. Cast endplates. Less primitive that my '59 Perm. Can you post a good, fairly close-up pic of the changer? I'm kinda doubting that it's a homebuilt guitar. If it is homebuilt, from that era, the builder was very good! |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 1:12 pm
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This guy had a Shobud that had an Emmons fretboard on it as well. Who knows, maybe it's a Bud!
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 1:17 pm
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It's a Frankensteel!  |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 1:31 pm
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| Split fingers eh? Hmmmm,,,,, I have no clue. I'm an old Shobud guy, and it ain't a Bud. |
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John Fabian
From:
Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 11 May 2009 1:42 pm
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That is not an Emmons.
Chris Lucker owns #5. |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 1:52 pm
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Thanks, John! Well I guess now I can be sure it's not the first Carter either!!!!
Well it is an odd duck. Maybe someone will recognize it. |
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Bobby Bowman
From:
Cypress, Texas, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 May 2009 2:14 pm Emmons?
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Ken,
Since talking to you and after looking at all the pictures, here's my guess.,,,,,
I really think it is not a true Emmons, not even an Emmons prototype. I do, however, believe that whoever/whomever built this guitar had a little knowledge of an Emmons Push Pull and I emphesize the word LITTLE.
Giving credit where it's due, it looks good from the top side.
Bottom line is, does it work?, and is the price worth it?
I think $250 to maybe $300 would be tops.
BB
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Last edited by Bobby Bowman on 11 May 2009 2:36 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 2:17 pm
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| What was the first guitar to use split fingers? I may very well be wrong, but those appear to be s-fs on this guitar. The cabinet work is very nicely done. The way it looks seems to tell me 1963, '64. Sta-Tites. I've seen that keyhead design somewhere before,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 11 May 2009 2:31 pm
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Tell your old friend the first Emmons guitars were all mica. 
The fingers and fretboard may be Emmons parts. Everything else is...something else. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 11 May 2009 4:00 pm
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Ken
Everything about this guitar has already been said, and that's why I choose to say nothing; and, as is the usual case, use as few words as possible to do so.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 11 May 2009 4:22 pm
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 11 May 2009 8:06 pm
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| Herb, perhaps you could elaborate... |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 11 May 2009 10:14 pm
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| That guitar was built by "Clem Emmons", Buddy's long lost cousin from the Ozarks. Clem was so jealoue of Buddy's success that he rushed to make a #5 Emmons before Ron and Buddy could get their's out. Ole Clem just made due with what he could come up with. Its true, look it up. |
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
From:
Sweden
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Posted 11 May 2009 11:37 pm
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| ...dig those Duck´s Foot pedals...McUtsi |
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Geoff Marshall
From:
North Lincolnshire U,K.
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Posted 12 May 2009 12:41 am
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I bet it sounds fantastic.
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 12 May 2009 2:32 am
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Just a guess but maybe it's an Endicott..... Ever see one of those?........JH in Va.
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 12 May 2009 4:47 am
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| Kevin Hatton wrote: |
| Ole Clem just made due with what he could come up with. Its true, look it up. |
Kevin's correct. And did you guys know "gullible" is not in the dictionary? Really, look it up.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 12 May 2009 5:35 am
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| I must say I never believed for a moment it was built by Emmons! Still I am no expert on pedal steels so I put it out here for help from the many experts on our Forum. I just wanted to find out what it might be. Any comments are appreciated! |
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Geoff Marshall
From:
North Lincolnshire U,K.
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Posted 12 May 2009 8:21 am
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Plug it in and play it - let us khow how it sounds who ever built it put alot into it. capricious design issues aside: ducks and rabbits etc, but a push pull with a tight grain hard wood body and cleverly thought out ZB linkage on the dual pulls
makes this machine worthy of respect.
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