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AJ Azure

 

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Post  Posted 9 May 2009 1:46 pm    
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SO i am finding myself playing jazz, tango/flamenco and classical stuff that my reso isn't right for. i want to add two guitars to my stage show. i use a tricone now and I'd like a jumbo sized 12 string acoustic for the tango and a jumbo sized archtop with floating pickup for jazz both of course squareneck.
so do these sound feasible to y'all?
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 9 May 2009 4:12 pm    
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not to me.
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Les Anderson


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Post  Posted 9 May 2009 4:45 pm    
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To cover all twelve strings on an acoustic' on one neck , you would need hands like an Orangutan. I have seen seven and eight string acoustics and I have seen lots of duel neck acoustics.

The twelve stringed acoustics that I have seen are plentiful but one normally picks two strings at a time because the strings are spaced like a mandolin's strings.
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Steinar Gregertsen


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Post  Posted 9 May 2009 5:00 pm    
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If you by 12 string acoustic means like a regular 12 string guitar, then I remember seeing a couple of them in squareneck versions, just can't remember where (it may have been resos). Slants would probably sound 'funny' on one, but besides that I really can't see why it wouldn't work.

An archtop will probably have less sustain than a flattop or weissenborn, but Indian players like Debashish Bhattacharya and Vishwa Mohan Bhatt have used them for a long time. Sounds good to me..
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AJ Azure

 

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Post  Posted 9 May 2009 5:24 pm    
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I figure if it works for a pedal steel why not an acoustic? i am thinking a couple of Charlie christian pick ups wired in-line for the archtop. It's definitively unorthodox but, especiallyf for the classical stuff I want more range and when backing my guitarist as he solos I want larger voicings. However, going eletric ruins the sound I hear in my head for the music I cover or compose..
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Steinar Gregertsen


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Post  Posted 9 May 2009 5:38 pm    
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AJ Azure wrote:
I figure if it works for a pedal steel why not an acoustic?


My main concern would be the tension to the top and bridge, and if the bracing would have to be too solid to produce a good tone. But I'm no luthier so I don't know, it might work, I've seen some pretty wild harp guitars..
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Les Anderson


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Post  Posted 9 May 2009 9:48 pm    
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I thought he was meaning an acoustic that would be played like an acoustic.

Your right about the tension on the neck, body and bridge; it would probably cause endless problems unless it was reinforced throughout.
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AJ Azure

 

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Post  Posted 10 May 2009 7:40 am    
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why would there be an issue unless I was using mondo thick strings and could scale length eliminate or help some of these issues?

tuning I am considering

BDGBDEGBDEF#A

.060, .058, .056, .048, .034, .032, .026, .017, .015, .013, .010, .008
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Gary C. Dygert

 

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Post  Posted 10 May 2009 5:03 pm    
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AJ, you're talking about a guitar similar to Pete Grant's 10-string reso, only with two more strings? I remember seeing 10-string guitars in catalogues from the Dobro company in the 1960s, and Petegrant.com talks about his 10-string reso, but I can't imagine those top two strings having any volume. Grant's strings go from .070 to .013. I don't know how the 60s 10-string Dobros were tuned. I think we need Alan Brookes to join in on this one.
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AJ Azure

 

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Post  Posted 11 May 2009 6:56 am    
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yes but, not a reso..yeeh the top strings might need to be thicker
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