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Topic: Would someone tab this KJP song out for a fee? |
Hans Henrik Rasmussen
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Denmark, Copenhagen
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Posted 17 Aug 2009 12:10 pm |
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Hello all,
I’m hoping someone can help me. I’ve got this song that I’ve wanted to play for such a long time – it’s Kelly Joe Phelps’ “Lass of Loch Royale (If I prove false to thee)” from the Beggar’s Oil EP – such an amazing song. But since it’s a bit complicated (not that difficult though I should think) it will take me a lot of time to tab it out, so my idea was that perhaps one of you guys who has a better ear than mine and could do it a lot faster and had a little time to spend would do it for a fee?
The tab should of course be made public afterwards but if someone else is interested in it and wanted to chip in that would of course be great and make it easier to find someone who would take on the task since we could up the fee.
And I’m thinking of a pretty thorough tab all the way through the song (not as in excruciatingly, 100 per cent correct with every single almost unnoticeable variation included but you get the idea).
You can hear a preview and download the song for $0.69 (money well spent!) here: http://www.amazon.com/Royale-Prove-False-Album-Version/dp/B001RZ67SQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1250526278&sr=8-6. I’ve never heard lap slide more beautiful – and the intro gives a pretty good idea of how the song is to tab out. The tuning is DADF#AD with a capo on 3rd fret and I have a tab of some of the intro to start on as well.
I hope someone is up for this!
Thanks for your time,
Hans |
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 17 Aug 2009 1:01 pm
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Hans, I'm sure there are some forumites who could tab the tune out for you but I urge you to do it yourself. You have the passion to learn the tune and really, the payback in ear training from doing so is invaluable. There are only so many usual positions in open D and Kelly Joe uses the basic ones - albeit with incredible feel and style. C'mon Hans, you can do it!
From AG Magazine:
Kelly Joe Phelps’ road companions are a Gibson J-60 with raised strings for lap-slide playing and, for straight guitar work, a Guild DV-52. The main instrument heard on Sky Like a Broken Clock is a 1947 Gibson J-45, which Phelps says may be his best-sounding acoustic instrument but doesn’t work as well as the Guild with his amplification rig.
Like many acoustic slide players, Phelps uses a Sunrise pickup, but he recently installed a new Seymour Duncan Mag Mic—a combination of magnetic pickup and internal microphone—on his Guild and he’s "fallen in love with it." Says Phelps, "I like the magnetic pickup system much more than the under-the-saddle thing. It still doesn’t sound acoustic—I’ve given up trying to make a guitar sound acoustic on stage—so now what I am looking for is a very pleasing tone that has a lot of strength and clarity, and magnetic pickups certainly have given me that. They suit the way I play—a lot of it is thumb driven, so I need a fat bottom end."
Both guitars are strung with D’Addario 80/20 mediums, but on the slide guitar he beefs up the trebles with a .016 (rather than .013) first string and a .019 (rather than .017) second string. His slide bar is a stainless-steel Scheerhorn. He uses a Shubb capo for the straight guitar; for the slide guitar, with its raised strings, he’s got a homemade capoing rig. "It has an ebony wood base that matches the radius of the fingerboard, with a piece of fretwire on the top to give the strings something solid to rest on," he says. "Then I wrap an old-fashioned elastic capo around the top to hold the strings against the base."
Phelps picks with his thumb and two fingers—no nails, no ring finger—and lightly anchors his right hand with his little finger.
Do you have his instructional DVD?
http://www.amazon.com/Slide-Guitar-Kelly-Phelps-Improvisation/dp/B000056K8J
If all fails, my buddy John McGann offers a unique transcription service. His fees are very reasonable and the quality of his work is first class. http://www.johnmcgann.com/transcription.html
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Last edited by Andy Volk on 17 Aug 2009 6:35 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Hans Henrik Rasmussen
From:
Denmark, Copenhagen
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Posted 17 Aug 2009 2:13 pm
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Hi Andy,
Thanks a lot - and yes, you make a valid point, the work certainly pays off but I have been through a couple of these over the last weeks (driving my girlfriend near mad in the process  and it takes a lot of time which is somewhat limited for me at the moment so I just wanted to take the easy route on this one (by the way most recently I tabbed out Jeff Lang's No Good Answers, it's an amazing piece of lap style playing so if anyone wants it let me know). Also, I sometimes find that I've lost a bit of the desire to play a song when I've been listening to it in bits and pieces for two weeks.
I do have both of KJP's dvd's and they are excellent! And I have also been scouring the net for stuff about him for the last three years since I first heard of him.
Anyway, sounds great with your buddy’s transcription service though at $50 an hour I hope it won’t take him too long! – I’ll just give it one more thought if I ought to have a go at it myself.
If anyone else is interested in doing this I would still very much like to hear from you.
Thanks again,
Hans |
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Dennis Brooker
From:
Iowa, USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2009 3:02 pm
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| Hans - If you can tell I would like to know if KJP uses a nut extender or a new nut on his acoustic lap guitar - Thanks - DB |
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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nick allen
From:
France
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Posted 18 Aug 2009 12:22 am
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Denis Brooker -
It's been a while, but I'm 99% certain it's a new, higher nut. (I have a photo of his guitar around somewhere, but I'm not sure where somewhere is at the moment...  )
Having said that, he hasn't played lap slide in quite a few years, though I read somewhere his next record will be all instrumental, with 2 or 3 lap slide pieces included.
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Josh Cho
From:
New York, NY (orig. Honolulu, HI)
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Posted 18 Aug 2009 3:36 am
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Hans,
As a guitar teacher for 20 years I've been doing transcriptions by ear second nature for a long time. I also do a fair amount of arranging for my wedding clients (most recently Stevie Wonder's "Isn't She Lovely" for my Hawaiian band  )
And I've done a couple custom transcriptions/TABS for forumites here, most recently a couple Gospel tunes (I'll Fly Away + I Saw the Light=Side note-anyone else interested in these????)
Anyway for highly detailed transcriptions the amount of time devoted to it makes the price go up, in which case McGann would be the guy since I'd probably have to charge same for time invested.
But if you want the harmonic structure of the entire piece, plus all the important licks, fills and prominent motifs found in the song, I'd be able to offer you a better deal.
Here's a link to a transcription/arrangement I did of The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire) to see what the finished product will look like.
If interested, please send message thru the forum or contact me through my Website
Best of luck,
Josh
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Hans Henrik Rasmussen
From:
Denmark, Copenhagen
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Posted 18 Aug 2009 6:40 am
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Hi again,
Thanks for all the help guys.
Dennis - KJP uses a new nut on his lap style guitar. You can go to this link: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/riverratjimmy/pages/articles.htmand then follow the link at the bottom that says "40 page document" for a lot of great KJP info, including his exact string height.
Nick - KJP's new album is already here and he does play lap slide on three songs.
And Josh - sounds great! I've sent you an email through your website.
-Hans |
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Dennis Brooker
From:
Iowa, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2009 7:13 am
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| Hans - Thanks very much for your reply and the link - I've got it saved - Good info and a good place to start - I will be making my new nut out of ivory/paper micarta and I'll put a small spacer to raise the bridge insert - Best regards - DB |
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Steve Atwood
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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James Mayer
From:
back in Portland Oregon, USA (via Arkansas and London, UK)
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Posted 18 Aug 2009 4:24 pm
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| Hans, if you decide to go at it alone, THIS will be a tremendous aid. |
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