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Topic: Switching between non-pedal to pedal & back |
Les Anderson
From: The Great White North
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 10:01 am
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This is a question for those of you who play both 10 & 12 string pedals and D8 or D10 non-pedals.
I picked away at a Sho-Bud D10 pedal steel last night and felt like I was trying to pick fly sh** out of a bowl of sugar while wearing boxing gloves.
I play a D8 & D10 non-pedal; however, the D10 pedal steel strings are even closer together than my non-pedal D10. I know that b0b & Doug Beaumier switch back and forth so I have to ask about the length of time it takes for mind training to do the switching back and forth between the two comfortably.
How long does it take to get one's mind into learning and subsequently having the subconscious learn the difference between the string spacings without screwing up? |
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John Bechtel
From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 11:25 am
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I play a D–10 PSG with a 24¼” scale and also a D-8 with a 22½” scale and a T–10 with a 22½” scale. Each of them has a slightly different string-spacing, because of the different scales and number of strings and I switch between them constantly. It only takes several minutes to adjust to the different feel of each guitar. _________________ <marquee> Go~Daddy~Go, (No), Go, It's your Break Time</marquee> L8R, jb
My T-10 Remington Steelmaster |
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Doug Beaumier
From: Northampton, MA
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 11:50 am
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Les, yes, it takes a few minutes to adjust to the narrower string spacing of 10-string pedal steel. It might be easier for me because I played PSG for 20 years before I played non-pedal, and it's been another 20 years of both, so I'm pretty comfortable with either. I know what you mean though... the string spacing is very different, and I feel that part of the artistry of steel playing is lost with the narrower spacing of the PSG. That is to say, slants on adjacent strings are nearly impossible on PSG because the strings are so close. It's a different animal, that's for sure! _________________ My Site / My YouTube Channel
25 Songs C6 Lap Steel / 25 MORE Songs C6 Lap Steel / 16 Songs, C6, A6, B11 / 60 Popular Melodies E9 Pedal Steel |
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Twayn Williams
From: Portland, OR
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 11:54 am
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Having finally found the perfect Strat neck after searching for 20yrs, in the past 5 years I've found the neck of a guitar makes very little difference to me. Even a switch from Strat to Classical (1 11/16" to 2") only take me about 10 seconds.
On steel, the string spacing on my Goldtone is significantly wider than on my GFI. I have no problems switching back and forth (as far as my right hand is concerned ) That classical guitar right hand training might also have something to do with it. _________________ Primitive Utility Steel |
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Les Anderson
From: The Great White North
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Posted 17 Apr 2009 6:46 pm
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Doug Beaumier wrote: |
That is to say, slants on adjacent strings are nearly impossible on PSG because the strings are so close. It's a different animal, that's for sure! |
Hey tell me about it. By habit or mind set, I had a tendency to use bar slants instead of mashing the pedals and levers on my friends pedal steel.
Mind you, he couldn't begin to grab the strings on my D8 and he had no idea how to slant. I guess the string spacing works for problems on both sides. |
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