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Topic: Peterson Strobe for iPhone ! |
Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Matthew Prouty
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Warsaw, Poland
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Posted 8 Apr 2009 11:11 am |
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Sweet!
Getting it today.
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Ron Randall
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Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2009 11:35 pm
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Downloaded today. Beautiful display.
Seems to have an OK acoustic "ear".
I have tried a few of my adaptor cables and have NOT found the right combination yet, to get guitar pickup signal to the iPhone. I have what I think is a logical physical fit, but no signal in yet.
Is the output from passive pickups, considered line level?
I see that Peterson has a simple adaptor for sale for $10. Goes from 1/4 phone plug to iPhone earpiece jack.
Very cool. Good strong audio input. Singing, acoustic guitar, piano, sax, etc.
This should be a big hit.
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Pit Lenz
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Cologne, Germany
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Posted 9 Apr 2009 2:19 am
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Is the tuning chart fixed to tempered tuning,
or are there any other presets in there
or can you even program it maybe? |
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Ron Randall
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Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2009 4:25 pm
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Pit,
I believe it is Equal Temperment. It does display cents, sharp or flat.
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John McClung
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Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2009 5:14 pm
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On that page for the iPhone app there's a link to StroboSoft2 software which is Mac/PC, and says it includes "sweetened tuning" but isn't specific; I surmise that means tunings for pedal steel, can anyone confirm that?
That would be great for my teaching studio laptop, Peterson tuning without having to buy hardware.
Anyone have experience with this software?
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Paddy Long
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Posted 9 Apr 2009 7:07 pm
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Yes John the Strobosoft2 software does have the sweeteners for PSG ... not sure about the Iphone version though!
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Bob Cox
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Buckeye State
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Posted 10 Apr 2009 4:21 am
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| This is cool ,now you can talk to your gal while tunning your guitar,honey your a little flat,oops I meant the guitar. |
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Jaclyn Jones
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Texas, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2009 6:47 am
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She will like it better if you tell her she is really "sharp". That way she won't tune you up.
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2009 5:27 pm
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Ipod Touch owners -
IF YOU HAVE A JAILBROKEN 1ST GEN TOUCH -
Do NOT buy this - unlike just about every other iPhone app it will not run...won't even install...even though you can use a mic, recording software, and other tuners.
Not only that - but you do not find out until AFTER you make the purchase - it won't install. Then iTunes send you to Peterson (they will not give you a refund) - but it does not exist on Peterson's support site, so you can't report a problem, get support, open a support ticket..nothing.
You have to go to the main page and send an email to "info@ peterson...etc etc."
This is the ONLY app I can't get installed. And the support is abominable.
I was also looking to buy a Stroboflip real soon, but I'm switching that to a Turbo Tuner.
beware of companies that release products before they have ANY support in place!
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1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
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Ron Randall
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Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2009 10:57 pm
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Jim
FYI...It runs just fine on my i Phone.
For $10, it displays notes in the Equally Tempered Scale. It nicely displays cents either sharp or flat.
It allows the user to center the tuning at any pitch. By default it is centered at C. The reference is A440 which can be adjusted up or down.
Handy, accurate, very simple and $10.
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Tony Glassman
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The Great Northwest
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Posted 11 Apr 2009 7:36 am
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Works fine on my iPhone too.
I might buy the $10 plug-in adaptaer and throw it into my seat. I think I could get by with this for an evening, (as a back-up) if my strobo-flip was either lost or malfunctioning. I'd just tune to ET or maybe attempt JI (using Newman chart). |
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2009 8:14 am
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Guys, I didn't say it would not work on an iPhone - or 2nd Gen Touch.
What it WON'T do is work on the 1st gen iPod Touch, even if it's jailbroken.
Many owners of 1st-version iPod Touch units have modified the firmware with what is popularly know as the "jailbreak" operating system. The early Touch has many of the same capabilites of the later model and the iPhone, lacking only a microphone - when you "jailbreak" an early touch, you can run 90% of the iPhone/2nd gen iPod Touch software - just about anything that does not involve phone calls.
This opens your unit up to hundreds of applications 2nd Gen owners can use, including any using a microphone by simply attaching a MacAlly or other mic to the charging slot (the headphone jack is NOT dual-purpose on the 1st gen Touch so you cannot plug in a mic as with the newer ones).
There are at least a couple of four-track recording programs available - I have a 99-cent one that has a built-in rhythm system with several styles, track bouncing, etc - it's not pro-quality and the rhythm is a bit cheesy sounding, but it is the perfect scratch-pad for ideas.
The Peterson software is the first mic-based software I've found that does NOT use the MacAlly or other "slot" mic, and cannot even be installed.
The first post of the thread says "iPod Touch" but doesn't note 1st Gen models won't work. The link page DOES have a note, but it's in SMALL print near the bottom of the page and easy to miss.
Most Jailbroken Touch owners would not be bothered by that anyway, as everything else that uses a mic seems to work fine.
So I just wanted to be SURE no early Touch buyers accidentally bought it - because once bought Peterson has NO method of support for it - on the support page it simply does not exist, and their system requires a product serial number to generate a product-specific support ticket. You can't do it as the product is not on the page - and you don't have a serial number because it doesn't install.
It's a really weak system - and releasing a product with no service/support source is a bad practice.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Joey Ace
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 11 Apr 2009 8:45 am External Mike ???
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I have a 2nd Gen iPod Touch.
Never knew it could use an external mike.
No mention of it in the specs.
Tell me about it. |
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2009 9:54 am
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| While it lacks the iPhone's integrated mic next to the dock connector, the new touch now supports audio input via the headphone jack using the same four conductor headphone port as the iPhone. However, the software for audio recording apparently isn't finished yet. |
Joey - If you go to Amazon and look for iPod Touch mics you'll find a selection of things, and I have also seen a cable "dongle" that plugs into the headphone jack and has a 1/4" phone jack (might be a mini - I don't recall, but it was one or the other and adapters can be used if it's a mini) for use of a standard guitar or high-impedance mic cable.
The 1st gen does not have thae jack wired for input, so you have to do the "jailbroken" firmware change and use the power/USB jack and special mics made for it. The only practical one for the available recording software is the MacAlly Voiceiii, which runs about $30, actually has great sound AND a jack for an external mic, and most importantly does not block the headphone jack - most others block that jack making multi-track recording impossible.
Sidebar - there ARE instructions on the web for wiring the jack on a 1st Gen, but it's scary work requiring precise soldering of two tiny spots - someone should advertise a service to do the modification; I know I'd pay to have it done. I'll work on amps all day long but won't touch a soldering iron to this kind of thing; I've already turned a couple of PCB effects pedals into paperweights trying mods.
Here are links to a couple of recording software systems for the Pod Touch or iPhone:
The better $10 one -
http://www.sonomawireworks.com/iphone/fourtrack/
The 99-cent special -
http://appbeacon.com/apps/012093/gigbaby-four-track-recorder-metronome-drum-machine
Note that the 99-cent Gigbaby beta is the one I use, and figure with the Touch I'm not going to do serious recording - because my mic uses the USB slot I cannot charge it while using it, and for "real" recording I'll use my Mac anyway. But, being the gadget-freak I am I'll probably spend ten bucks on the Sonoma version eventually.
With a 2nd Gen, however, if you use a mic plugged into the jack you can charge it while using it, so anywhere you have a place to plug in a charger - wall plug, car, any computer - you can record without stopping.
I think there are a couple of other tuning programs floating around as well, but they were, if I recall, 6-string specific. 
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Chuck Huffman
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Sonora, California, Now Living in Siloam Springs, Ar. USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2009 10:27 am Re: External Mike ???
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I have a 2nd Gen iPod Touch.
Never knew it could use an external mike.
No mention of it in the specs.
Tell me about it. |
I read about this a few days back. I have 2nd Gen Itouch, you can use the iphone earphone mic. They are also about to sell the adapter for a more precise tunning. It's not ava yet but they are taking pre orders. you can then plug direct into the iphone or itouch ( itouch will still need the added mic) Im going to wait and buy the adapter before I downlode the app. |
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Jonathan Shacklock
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London, UK
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Posted 11 Apr 2009 11:56 am
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| Thanks for the heads up Jim, saved me the frustration and $10. Let us know if you find a workaround for 1st gen Touch. Good info on the 4 track stuf alsof, I might give that a go. |
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Pit Lenz
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Cologne, Germany
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Posted 11 Apr 2009 1:08 pm
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just a little compatibility info:
I had installed it on my jailbroken iPhone 3G with firmware 2.1 and it didn´t work.
Stupid me, that was described on the iTunes page:
Compatible with iPhone and iPod touch (2nd generation), requires the iPhone 2.2.1 firmware update.
My gearslutty fingers hit the "buy"-button faster than I could read  (Hello gadget-freak, welcome to the club )
Then I updated to jailbroken 2.2.1 and now it works great! 
Check this out:
If you use two fingers and spread them on the screen, the info is cut out and it zooms to the strobe window.
great app, I hope they might include temperments in some next versions...
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2009 10:17 pm
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FWIW I have the 2.2.1 upgrade and a freshly jailbroken 1G - still no luck with Strobosoft.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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John Norris
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Peterson Strobe Tuners, Illinois, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2009 1:46 pm
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Hi Jim,
I apologize for the fact that you had no luck with iStroboSoft, we did send you an e-mail with a link to Apple's iTunes terms of service page. I have addressed your statements below:
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What it WON'T do is work on the 1st gen iPod Touch, even if it's jailbroken.
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We clearly state the device requirements on both the iStroboSoft page and also on the iTunes page.
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| Many owners of 1st-version iPod Touch units have modified the firmware with what is popularly know as the "jailbreak" operating system. The early Touch has many of the same capabilites of the later model and the iPhone, lacking only a microphone - when you "jailbreak" an early touch, you can run 90% of the iPhone/2nd gen iPod Touch software - just about anything that does not involve phone calls. |
What should be noted is that jailbreaking is another word for "hacking" and is not supported by Apple, manufacturer of the iPod touch. The hack is from a third party which is some of the reason why you're having problems, some stuff will work, some will not. That 90% number you quote may decrease since although older apps may probably work with hacked devices, but with newer apps its not guaranteed.
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The Peterson software is the first mic-based software I've found that does NOT use the MacAlly or other "slot" mic, and cannot even be installed.
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Nobody said the docking connection could not be used as an input (in Gen 2 devices) so that statement is incorrect (if you did not install the software, how could you tell?).
The iStroboSoft app takes whatever audio is thrown at it, but again all bets are off with the jailbroken stuff, it may work, it may not, the developers kit from Apple does not include provision for such devices.
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The first post of the thread says "iPod Touch" but doesn't note 1st Gen models won't work. The link page DOES have a note, but it's in SMALL print near the bottom of the page and easy to miss.
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The first post was from a regular forum member - not a Peterson employee, so he can be exonerated from getting into details. The page he linked to does note the compatability requirements in the same print size as the rest of the content, we don't aim to mislead anyone, there's absolutely no point, but you do have to check compatibility just as you do with any software.
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Most Jailbroken Touch owners would not be bothered by that anyway, as everything else that uses a mic seems to work fine.
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Again, that is a crap-shoot, since Apple will not support devices after they have been hacked.
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So I just wanted to be SURE no early Touch buyers accidentally bought it - because once bought Peterson has NO method of support for it - on the support page it simply does not exist, and their system requires a product serial number to generate a product-specific support ticket. You can't do it as the product is not on the page - and you don't have a serial number because it doesn't install.
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The reason why we do not have a support ticket system for iStroboSoft is that we do not have access to Apple's iTunes store records. The purchase details and customer specific info is not shared with us as a developer.
Without that info, we could not effectively deal with issues like yours, which can only be handled by Apple, since they hold all the cards (info and the money!).
If you wanted a refund, then it is from Apple that you will receive it, since they are holding your $9.99.
Of all the iStroboSoft downloads so far, we've had only one refund report from Apple, they grant refunds at their discretion only.
John Norris
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Jerry Gleason
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Eugene, Oregon, USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2009 9:13 pm
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I have the Peterson iStrobosoft for the iPhone / iPod touch, and it's great. I'd like to also point out another tuner app that I like, called Cleartune. The two apps are quite different. Peterson's iStrobosoft is a basic tuner, no temperment options, but it does a very good job at what it does.
Cleartune ($3.99) has at least 22 different temperament options, and you can easily create and save your own. It also has a pitch pipe function, can display accidentals as either sharps or flats, and a number of other useful features.
I like both of these tuners, for different reasons. If you want to tune quickly, with minimum of fuss, iStrobosoft will get you there quicker and easier. It's display is more stable and easier to read than Cleartune's. Cleartune is a little more finickey. The display tends to jump around a little more, although I still found it completely usable.
I don't think one app is better than the other. I highly recommend getting both. I mean really, you can get both of these for less than fifteen bucks total. It's almost worth the price of an iPod touch and external mic, even if you don't use it for anything else (but of course you will...).
I have only tested these with my iPod 2G, with Apple's mic / headphone combo, so I can't comment about the built-in mic on the iPhone, or any external 1/4" plug-In adapter. |
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