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Topic: S-10 Vs D-10 |
Jerry Eilander
From: Hadspen, Tasmania, Australia
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Posted 17 Mar 2009 8:55 pm
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about to get a other steel.
now here the question, proberly been asked before ,but could not find it,
does a s10 sound the same as a d10,
as I had a brand name s10, and it didn't have the warm sound as my ,not so brand name d10.
reason ,I do a lot of gigs latly , and if I didn't have to lugg my d10 around so much, that would be good.
also shipping a sd10 to Australia would be cheaper.
I think.
so any one out there ,with a s10 and a d10 same make
and brand?
cheers Jerry |
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J Fletcher
From: London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 18 Mar 2009 5:31 am
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I have two Emmons push pulls, an S10 and an SD10.The S10 is livelier with more top end than the SD10, which is more comfortable to play and has a darker sound...Jerry |
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Michael Dulin
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2009 7:12 am s-10vsd-10
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I have a single body Zum ExtE9. It has a zum single coil pu. Sounds as good or better than any steel I've played or owned. Lighter weight and more compact too. Also no reaching across another set of strings or pad I like a lot. I've owned 2 Sho-Buds'no resonance'. A d10p/p Emmons9&9 sounded good,weighed nearly 90# in the case! A Derby,not bad,double body though. An s-10 Carter,very good and light,and another Zum back there one time,...loved it that's why I finally,after a 2 year wait got another. You can't hardly go wrong with any modern built steel. Good huntin'MD |
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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 18 Mar 2009 10:57 am
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Many D10 and SD10 owners swear there is a difference and double bodies sound better. But some people say single bodies sound better. The issue is further complicated by the fact that even two D10s of the same model can sound different, likewise two S10s. My feeling is that if there is any difference at all it is so subtle it is not worth worrying about. I would never lug around a double body just because of the rumored tone difference. I have three single-body 12-string universals, a D10 and a D12, all different brands. The D10 and D12 are not the best sounding ones. |
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Jerry Eilander
From: Hadspen, Tasmania, Australia
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Posted 18 Mar 2009 9:39 pm
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hmmm, very intresting,
keep them coming |
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Rick Barnhart
From: Arizona, USA
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Posted 18 Mar 2009 9:52 pm
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Jerry, I'm certainly no expert, but if you compare a standard acoustic guitar to a jumbo acoustic guitar, the jumbo will probably have a bigger or different tone, even if amplified.
Jumbos have more wood than standards. Double bodied steel guitars have more wood than single bodied steel guitars. I know that seems simple, and comparing PSG's to acoustic guitars is like comparing apples and oranges. (While thinkin' about it, a 12' Steinway grand piano, will likely blow a 6' baby grand away.) A little wood resonates, a lot of wood resonates more. I'm sleepy and tend to ramble, so I'll stop now, sorry.
I'm sure it's subtle as David said, and not really worth worrying about. Just my way of thinkin' _________________ Clinesmith consoles D-8/6 5 pedal, D-8 3 pedal & A25 Frypan, Pettingill Teardrop, & P8 Deluxe. |
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Bernie Straub
From: Folly Beach, South Carolina, USA
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Posted 19 Mar 2009 7:45 am
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Jerry, I own 2 Fessendens, a D-10 and an SD-10. The D-10 has wonderful tone, but the SD-10 is even better. I am no expert, only been playing 37 years, but I think the difference is the D-10 is lacquered and the SD-10 has a mica finish. Just MHO. I truely do not know for sure. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From: Austin, Tx
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Posted 19 Mar 2009 8:53 am
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In my experience of owning and playing D10's and S10's of the same brand and set up D10's sound better to me. SD10's sound pretty good also. The only single body S10 I have owned or played that had a tone I could live with was a PP Emmons. I have not heard or played a steel with those light aluminum legs that sounded quite right either. Something about the low mids doesn't work so well for me. _________________ Bob |
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Olli Haavisto
From: Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 19 Mar 2009 9:09 am
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Best of both worlds: A Williams wide body single, about 3/4 of a double. I have two 12 string wide bodies, switched from a double 4 years ago. If they didn`t sound as good as a D-10 to me I would have gone back.
A 12`Steinway, BTW, has longer strings than a baby grand... _________________ Olli Haavisto
Finland |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 19 Mar 2009 10:36 am
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I think that double neck guitars sound a wee bit better and have less cabinet drop. The difference is tone is subtle and subjective, but the difference in cabinet drop is measurable (a few cents). You can see it on a good electronic tuner if you remove the strings from the C6th neck and retune the E9th. _________________ -𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
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Bent Romnes
From: London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 19 Mar 2009 10:49 am
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I agree with b0b regarding more solidity. I will also add that a D10 body has a wider foot print and more weight which makes for better staying put when you hit a knee lever. Once you get used to the extra "shelf" to rest your arm on, you will never turn back to a single. The guitar becomes more a part of you.
Edited to say that I was speaking for the SD10
Not necessarily the D10 |
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Jerry Eilander
From: Hadspen, Tasmania, Australia
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Posted 20 Mar 2009 7:53 pm
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Thank ye all.
I'll go for a sd10 I think.
just wish ,I could go to a music shop with 20 odd steels lined up,
and try them all out.
must have had a not so good s10,I sold
because my d10 "linkon" sounds a milion dollars,
thanks all for your input, much appriciated |
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Tommy Shown
From: Denham Springs, La.
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Posted 21 Mar 2009 2:56 am
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I had a single neck when I first started out, while the man who taught me had a D10. The difference was like night and day. the S10 sounded weak and tinny while the double neck had a stronger, cleaner sound.
Don't get me wrong now. A single neck is a good guitar if you are starting out to learn. But eventualy you are going to have to make the move up to the double neck to become more proficient.
Tommy Shown |
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