E9 non-pedal tuning?

John Allison · From: Austin, Texas, USA

Anybody using something close to an E9 on an 8-string NP? I'm wanting to start work on a double neck and I need to start looking at a front neck tuning. I know that the many manifestations of the E13 are more standard, but I'm interested in an extended E that might give me a "straighter" feel for stuff that would normally have PSG.
I was thinking of something like a pretty straight B-D-E-F#-G#-B-E-G# or even something like A-C#-E-F#-G#-B-E-G#. There's a lot of chord possibilities with that one - it's got all the majors, minors, minor7's, 6's and some extended chords, but it's notably missing a full Dom7.
If I'm on the wrong track, then what's the best version or an E13 for post-Hank Country?
Thanks
J A
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John Bechtel · From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.

When I play 8-str. ‘E9’, I tune Lo–>Hi: E~B~D~E~F#~G#~B~E or w/2-pedals:
E9 = E~G#~B~D~F#~G#~B~E
A6 = E~(A)~(C#)~(E)~F#~[A]~[C#]~E
Bud Isaacs.
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b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

The high E13th used by Little Roy Wiggins is the real forerunner of the E9th pedal steel tuning:

G#
E
C#
B
G#
E
D
B

I've always found it easy to go back and forth between that and the pedal steel E9th.
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John Bechtel · From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.

I prefer having the F# stuck in there somehow!
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George Keoki Lake · From: Edmonton, AB., Canada

This is the setup I have used for many years...
HI to LO: E C# B G# E F# D B Yes, the 6th string
F# is tuned one tone higher than the 5th string E. However, this permits me to play the standard E6th on the first 5 strings. I can easily add the 9th or 7th (or both) at any time. Cool

Chris Scruggs · From: Nashville, Tennessee, USA

E
B
G#
F#
E
D
B
E

Roger Shackelton · From: MINNESOTA (deceased)

JERRY BYRD'S E-9th TUNING

1 - E
2 - B
3 - G#
4 - F#
5 - E
6 - D
7 - B
8 - G# or E

b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

I think that if you're going for a good approximation of the pedal steel E9th sound, you really should have a high G# string. Some people find it too "whiney" though.

Lately I've been using this D13th. The first string is a step lower than the second, like the high F# on pedal steel E9th. I lowered the tuning a step to get more range in the low end.

E
F#
D
B
A
F#
D
C

It's somewhere between Don Helms and Junior Brown. Razz

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Anthony Minstein · From: Kentucky, USA

Well, understand that I play a 12 string...but, still...I use a C6 tuning with a Bflat major 7 on top.

So: in an 8 string version would be:

A
F
D
Bflat
G
E
C
A

It's got two minor triads, dom 7, MAJ 7, min 7, half-dim 7 and a 6. With 12 strings, I repeat the C6 on the lower 4 strings so I can play traditional western swing, and modern jazz.

Try it...it gives you a lot of possibilities.
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John Allison · From: Austin, Texas, USA

Interesting tuning, Anthony. Lots of good chords... do you find it useful for single-note stuff?
Thanks
J A
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Anthony Minstein · From: Kentucky, USA

I do, but with limited mental capacities I frequently forget which string and which interval. If you play on the top six strings, you get a lot of tritones and bebop type substitutions.
Playing low, you can play traditional western swing licks.
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