POLL on who all plays sd-10s ?why?

Mike Archer · From: church hill tn

ive gone from a d-10 emmons which I played
for about 25 years on various emmons d-10s
now to a emmons pp sd-10 and I real love the guitar im working on c6th things and have learned so much which I could play c6th but could no longer
lift the d-10 steels any one care to

COMMENT?

Brian Kurlychek · From: Maine, USA

I play a SD10 Fessenden. It is my first guitar. I am still learning the e9th neck. Eventually I will get another guitar and it will be a D10 just so I can say I have experienced both.
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Larry Jamieson · From: Walton, NY USA

I started out with a single 10, E9 tuning because that was the sound I liked and wanted to learn. While I admire the people who can play both, swing and jazz were not my music of choice, so I never felt the need to get a double neck and learn C6. The older I get, the less weight I want to carry around to gigs, so I have bought only E9 guitars. I currently own a SD10 Zum and a wide body (1/2 pad) Williams.
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Larry Bressington · From: Nebraska

I went to a single tuning Standard E9th, i love the C6th, but because i also play Lead guitar, flat top Acoustic, Nylon string and electric slide and Dobro, it was too much to keep up with, I still play a D10, but my back neck now has 6 strings tuned to G, with no pedals and only one knee lever which pulls the 1st string a half tone.
I utilise this neck for the rock stuff, 'bad to the bone' etc and blues stuff, it gives awesome tones.

Mark van Allen · From: Watkinsville, Ga. USA

I enjoy C6 but went to SD-10s after a herniated neck disc taught me to be more circumspect about carrying stuff. I can get just about all I need out of that, lap, and dobro.

Mike Archer · From: church hill tn

thats me too.....I also play tele plus
after I had knees replaced along with 2 more operations and a real bad back I just couldnt drag a d-10 around any longer
tonight I did a church music night thing and it sure was a pleasure to tear down that sd-10 and case it..... plus im just taking my c6th knowledge
and using it on e9th too in some places
so I dont have 10th string bo-wa I can live without it hey its a new day!!

Mike Christensen · From: Cook Minnesota

I started out with a Pro-3 because I got a good deal on it but have never had much interest in the C-6. Played a D8 before in A6 and that was fun but my best friend and mentor Mike Randolph plays everything on E9 from old country to Comfortably Numb and makes it sound like thats the way it is supposed to sound so I feel there is no need to learn the C6 and lug around a bigger guitar and have more to set up and tune. I have since had and sold a 76 LDG and now have an 06 Willy and am waiting for my 69 S-10 to get back from Coop. Plenty of music in the E9 to keep me going.Happy Trails to you all. Mike C

Alan Harrison · From: Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA

Hi Mike, I love the C6th neck but when I hear Randy Beavers play his SD-10 Zum and all the C6th stuff he gets on the E9th neck, I wonder why I continue to carry my D-10 around (Not that I could ever learn all that stuff he gets).

I also suffer from back, knee and hip problems and will suffer my 73rd birthday in a couple of weeks. Makes me think SD-10 every time I load or unload it from the Explorer...alan
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Andy Jones · From: Mississippi

I presently have a D-10 because I bought it used to learn to play.Being the realist that I am,I have come to the realization that I will not live long enough to learn much on C6.I started at 53 years of age and I can see where the E9 neck will keep me busy the rest of my life.With that being said,my next guitar will be an SD-10.

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Mike Archer · From: church hill tn

hey Alan happy birhday a little early my friend!!
go for the sd-10 and save your back
well I love the c6th too!! BUT....

hey Andy I see where you are coming from too
although im not against anyone playing c6th
I do see a trend of us older fellas doing the sd-10 instead of d-10.....and for a lot of the same reasons.....health/knees/backs lets face it the d-10s
are heavey. one thing a friend got me a foldup
hand truck at sears the other day and man that helps I can put my nashville 112 on it and my seat on top of that and bungee it down and go
then go back and get my steel I dont carry a effects rack anymore either so that cuts more weight out every little bit helps...............

Larry Bell · From: Englewood, Florida

Anybody have numbers?
How much lighter is an S/D-10 than a D-10?

I play an S/D-12 and really don't think it's any lighter than a D-10.

Just curious how much difference there really is.

My Emmons and Sho-Bud SD-12 guitars weigh around 65# in the case.
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Mike Archer · From: church hill tn

I dont know by how much but

I think in my case the sd-10 is about 20 pounds

lighter then the d-10 I had ( both emmons)

Charles Davidson · From: Phenix City Alabama, USA

I have tried to go to an s-10 a couple of times because of the weight,I to have a bad back,and I'm an old geezer,I always miss the C6th neck,I can play some 6th stuff on the 9th neck but it's just not the same[for me at least]The last time I went to SINGLE neck,I got rid of my Pro two and bought a new GFI single Ultra from Bobbe,[ IT WAS A GREAT GUITAR] I missed that bottom neck so much I traded the GFI to a friend for my MSA 73 d-10 classic,about four years ago.I solved the weight problem SOME,I had the case cut down,the body in one case,everything else in another,use a little folding hand truck to carry it.I have allways been a C6th nut,and enjoy playing it over the 9th neck, DYKBC.
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Andy Jones · From: Mississippi

When I bought my D-10,I fully intended to learn both necks.The type of music I prefer is played mostly on the E9 neck.I really like the C6 also,but a choice had to be made.The E9 won out;hence my decision to make my next guitar an SD-10.The weight isn't a concern at this point in time because I am, thankfully,in very good health and can handle the D-10['74 MSA D-10 Classic]without problems.As most of you know,this guitar in the case,at 82 pounds,is very heavy.This could change any time,as I am very well aware.I may change my mind one day or find another D-10 better suited to my liking.For now my sights are set on an SD-10.

Andy

Larry Bell · From: Englewood, Florida

(just out of curiosity)
so, guys, what's an S/D-10 MSA Classic weigh in the case?

I know a lot of folks claim that the reason they go from a D-10 to a U-12 is the weight. It had absolutely nothing to do with my decision since I was in my 20s when I started playing a U-12 and I've always wondered the weight difference between an S/D-10 and D-10 of a given brand.

For a universal 12 string, you only remove the changer, since the pedals, pulls, rods, etc. are all still there -- on one neck. I was just curious how much difference it makes with a 10 string.
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John Drury · From: Gallatin, Tn USA

The reason I went to an SD-10 had nothing to do with weight. It just sank in one day that I will be lucky if I ever become proficient with E9, let alone C6. I don't play these things for a living so no pressure on learning C6 pedal guitar anyway. I think this is the case with a lot of PSG players, way more ametuers than pro's.

My 6 string C6 lap is a handful for me, and the type of songs I play on it only call for about 6 strings.
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Mike Schwartzman · From: Maryland, USA

Well for me, it's a couple of blown out discs also. The surgeries didn't quite do the job in my case. It's fine by me because I'm relatively new on pedal steel (about 1 year into it). I do so love the sound of a C6 neck. Maybe a D10 in the future one day, but just in the music room.
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Sam White R.I.P. · From: Coventry, RI 02816

I have a SD-10 Emmons LaGrandeIII and I had a SD-10 Fessy.I like the pad to lean my arms on when I'm playing. I feel more Comfortable playing that way.
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Rick Winfield · From: Pickin' beneath the Palmettos

I started out on a D10. My back couldn't handle the weight, and the stretch, so I bought a SD10. (Or more correctly S10DB.) Very light, easy action,. however....I miss the C6 neck.
Next axe will be SD12 UNI.
Rick

Mike Archer · From: church hill tn

I should point out that i do play a single ten
on a double frame........

I like s-10s but im to big for them (single frame)
so the sd-10 is like a d-10 but just the e9th neck and a pad often called a LOAFER Very Happy

John Billings · From: Ohio, USA

I play a Kline Uni and an old Shobud S-10. Never liked SD guitars. Don't like, or need a pad.

John Billings · From: Ohio, USA

Larry Bressington,
"6 strings tuned to G"
Did you get the pm that I sent you?

Mike Archer · From: church hill tn

well for me it will always be with a pad
ive been playing d-10s for 30 years so the body ant
gonna change as far as width

but I respect other folks playing s-10s
thats cool i guess its all what you get use to
and prefer Very Happy

Edward Meisse · From: Santa Rosa, California, USA

Al Marcus · From: Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)

Fantastic post-We have so many choices and want the best that we can get and one that is easy to carry around.

Larry Bell had a question of "What is the difference of the weight of a SD 10 and a D10.? If I remember, there is not too much difference in the weight of the body itself as the SD 10 is the same body as the D10 on most guitars, as the Carters. So the pegs , changer and 4 pedals extra 8/5 for the D10 is about it,(probably 4 lbs for the extra pedals) compared to a SD 10 with 4/5.Carter can tell you the exact difference, I am thinking. I have always had S12 guitars and D10's or D12's ,no SD 10 or SD12 guitars. ....al. Smile

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