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Topic: For you Joaquin Murphey fans |
Roy Ayres
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Posted 3 Mar 2009 3:58 pm |
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Keep in mind that this was recorded about 60 years ago.
Joaquin: "Yearning"
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Dave Harmonson
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Seattle, Wa
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Posted 3 Mar 2009 5:31 pm
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| Thanks for the post. Boy howdy, no wimps in that orchestra, eh? |
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Joshua Grange
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Los Angeles, California
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Posted 3 Mar 2009 5:58 pm
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| Fantastic! |
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Lonnie Portwood
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Jacksonville, fl. USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2009 6:44 pm
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Thanks Roy for sharing this with us. So now we know that our current hero players of the past 40 years did'nt really invent so much on their own, but learned from the pioneers of yesteryear! Boy, it would be hard to duplicate this music even on our high-tech instruments. WOW!!! Lonnie
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 3 Mar 2009 6:54 pm
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Unbelievable.
Thanks, Roy! 
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Bobby Boggs
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Upstate SC.
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Posted 3 Mar 2009 8:37 pm
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| Roy, even though I've heard it several times. I just wanted to thank you for posting a link so all can enjoy it......Thanks bb |
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Fish
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Posted 3 Mar 2009 8:45 pm
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"Honey, I'll be in the music room practicing for a while."
Whatta perfect solo. |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2009 10:27 pm
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| I'm hearing alot of Benny Goodman in Joaquin's playing. It's so great that we get to keep that perfect moment in time forever! |
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Roy Ayres
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Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Mar 2009 6:35 am
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Mike,
All due respects to you and the others posting to your referenced thread, that was NOT Joaquin Murphey. I hung out with him for several months in the early '50s and I sat and listened to at least 50 or 60 sets when he was with Smokey Rogers at the Bostonia Ballroom. Even the vibrato on "Moon Over Texas" gives it away, not to mention the less than perfect solo.
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 4 Mar 2009 7:51 am
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Thanks for your insight, Roy. The chordal stuff on Moon Over Texas sounds like JM to me and if it's not, it's certainly someone trying to sound like him. I have no doubt that Pack My Bags is not him.
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Joseph Carlson
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Grass Valley, California, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2009 7:48 am
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Holy smokes!
Just when I think I'm starting to get my ducks in a row I realize I still have a LONG way to go. Amazing! |
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Drew Howard
From:
48854
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Posted 5 Mar 2009 9:14 am
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Roy,
Thank you for the sharing the tune. Very inspiring!
Drew |
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Michael Johnstone
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Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2009 9:51 am
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| I fear that it was Murph on the McGinnis cut of Moon Over Texas. Remember this was in the late 60s after Murph had quit Smokey's band in San Diego(he was replaced by Sneaky Pete BTW),returned to L.A.,wasn't playing much and was pretty depressed,drinking heavily,broke and had to sell his Bigsby. He was just hanging around L.A. looking for a gig and someone who would help him get another guitar. I knew Doug McGinnis and his brothers and I played with Don McGinnis for years myself. It was the McGinnis brothers and Don in particular who introduced me to Murph in 1995. Murph had definately played and recorded with Doug in the time frame - Murph and Doug both told me about it and I think I have some living room tapes of that collaboration somewhere that I got from Doug after Murph died. I just think his chops were down.But Murph was definately in that circle and definately recorded with Doug. Incidently in the same time frame(mid/late 60s)Don McGinnis had his own band which featured Jimmy Lloyd,Jr.Nichols,Clem Smith,Billy Armstrong and Marian Hall on steel.I put out a CD of that band a couple years ago composed of 16 re-mastered tracks cut in L.A. in the 60s. Marian really smokes on that one. |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 5 Mar 2009 10:41 am
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| Michael, is there a way to buy this cd anywhere, or from you?? I'd love a copy! |
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2009 11:16 am Make that 2!
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| At least, I may want a back-up for that gold mine! |
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Mike Neer
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NJ
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Posted 5 Mar 2009 7:44 pm
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| I fear that it was Murph on the McGinnis cut of Moon Over Texas. Remember this was in the late 60s after Murph had quit Smokey's band in San Diego(he was replaced by Sneaky Pete BTW),returned to L.A.,wasn't playing much and was pretty depressed,drinking heavily,broke and had to sell his Bigsby. He was just hanging around L.A. looking for a gig and someone who would help him get another guitar. I knew Doug McGinnis and his brothers and I played with Don McGinnis for years myself. It was the McGinnis brothers and Don in particular who introduced me to Murph in 1995. Murph had definately played and recorded with Doug in the time frame - Murph and Doug both told me about it and I think I have some living room tapes of that collaboration somewhere that I got from Doug after Murph died. I just think his chops were down.But Murph was definately in that circle and definately recorded with Doug. Incidently in the same time frame(mid/late 60s)Don McGinnis had his own band which featured Jimmy Lloyd,Jr.Nichols,Clem Smith,Billy Armstrong and Marian Hall on steel.I put out a CD of that band a couple years ago composed of 16 re-mastered tracks cut in L.A. in the 60s. Marian really smokes on that one. |
Michael, I'm with you on this. I still haven't been convinced that it's not Joaquin. I know it was the tail end of his career, but still there are so many things in there that I've heard him play before and they still have some remnant of his touch.
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Roy Ayres
From:
Riverview, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Mar 2009 1:20 pm
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Michael,
Since the information you posted above is from direct knowledge acquired at that particular point in time, I must accept your conclusion as authoritative. Thus, I apologize for the overly bold statement I made above that it could not possibly be Joaquin. I had been fortunate to have heard him play, both live and on recordings, hundreds of times; I suppose that I could not bring myself to believe that my friend and idol could ever fall beneath the quality that was stuck in my mind from those past experiences.
My now-deceased first wife (Shirley), her girlfriend (Katie), Joaquin and I spent many evenings "double dating" around the San Diego and L.A. areas when Joaquin was with Smokey at the Bostonia. He was such a carefree and fun guy (with all of his nutsy antics) and was such a musical genius that I could not have ever expected that his manual dexterity could decline to the point heard in the link Mike posted to the earlier thread with discussion of "Moon Over Texas."
My "hero worship" got in the way of logic; therefore I apologize for doubting what some of you posted.
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Lee Jeffriess
From:
Vallejo California
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Posted 6 Mar 2009 6:42 pm
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Roy, I would trust your ears, I really don't believe your hearing Murphey on Moon over Texas.
I have a few recordings of Joaquin that are of an informal nature.
From playing solo in someones living room in 1958, to jamming with friends in a garage in the mid 70s.
If we are to believe that this is how JM sounds in the late 60's after bottoming out on booze.
Then I can assure you by 1971/72 he has made a full recovery to record Hawaii forever(as far as i know he is still a heavy drinker).
I like the steel playing on Moon over Texas, and Pack my bags(second solo definite nod to JM).
I think what your hearing is a player with less ability trying to play like Murphey, not Murphey with less ability.
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 6 Mar 2009 8:14 pm
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I guess we'll never know for sure, but I'm glad to have you guys to chat with about it. Thanks to all of you for sharing your knowledge.
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