Crossover Steel.

Derrick Frank · From: Berkshire, England

After 35 years of playing E9 I have found a great interest in playing C6, the problem being, I keep looking at my feet, as I can't get used to the new pedal positions, and I dont have the life span to start anew.Someone told me to try a crossover steel, where the remaining pedals are removed and the bell cranks are repositioned to be used on the first 3 pedals and knee levers, thus working both necks.
The possabilaties are there, and could be acheived, but I fear the extra pull on the pedals and knee levers may be a little harder on the instrument, and levers, but the idea sounds great.
Has anybody tried this setup, and if so, how does it feel to play with such a system, Slim.

richard burton · From: Britain

If you wanted to only play one neck exclusively for a few hours, you could back off the nylon tuners on the neck that is temporarily redundant.

Of course, if you want to swap between necks regularly, my idea is a non-starter Sad

Nic du Toit · From: Milnerton, Cape, South Africa

Get a U12....Problem solved.....

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

I think his complaint is that when he moves his leg over to play the C6th pedals, he has to look at his feet to make sure he is hitting the right pedals. A Uni with extra pedals for the B6th side would pose the same problem.

Derrick, If you remember when you first started playing E9th, you had to ocassionally look at your feet to see which pedal you were hitting. I think every player here has had to do that at one time or another.

On the C6th, center you foot over pedals 5 & 6 (assuming you have a standard C6th setup) and PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.

Derrick Frank · From: Berkshire, England

Thanks Richard for the info, I did try a U12 but with playing 10 string for the past 35 yr's the finger spacing has set, and I kept going to the wrong strings for run up's and other moves.
I will do as you say but time is not on my side in this venture, and I get the feeling folk are watching me and wondering if I know what i'm doing.
As the saying goes, Suck it and see, who knows it may work for me, Regards, Derrick.

Tony Glassman · From: The Great Northwest

Williams makes a crossover.....I've never played one, but I hear nothing but good things about their guitars.

http://www.williamsguitarcompany.com/400Xover.htm

David Doggett · Posted 1 Feb 2009 8:07 pm

Yes, the modern Williams crossover would be the one to try. The old Sho-Bud crossovers had mechanical problems. There should be no extra strain on the pedals of a crossover, as it is disengaged from one neck when it is switched to the other neck.

With a crossover you do end up with your feet in roughly the same position no matter which neck you are playing. But I'm not sure that would solve your problem, because on C6 you do not keep your feet in one position the way you do on E9. You really have to learn how to move your feet around on C6. There is nothing wrong with peeking at your feet while you are learning. If you play and practice C6 on a regular basis, eventually you get better at moving your feet around without looking - at least that's what they say. I'm not there yet.

Rich Peterson · From: Moorhead, MN

It is a matter of practice. I don't play a doubleneck, but in 1972 I began kicking a set of Fender Bass Pedals while playing guitar. I just practiced the moves from one key to the next, without playing anything on the guitar but a chord.

I suggest you break it down to the simplest elements. First, just picking a grip of strings and moving between two pedals. then do the same, but moving the bar to get a similar or related chord at a different fret.

Don't worry about it being a song. Just practice the mechanics of the movement, from one chord to another and back and forth. Gradually add more chords to the sequence.

Derrick Frank · From: Berkshire, England

Many thanks guy's for all your help, and as you say, it's just down to practice, so here goes, Slim.

Ken Byng · From: Southampton, England

Slim
Looked for you at Lakeside yesterday but couldn't see you. Were you there? It was a good gig.

Ken
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Jerry Dragon · From: Gate City Va.

I am pretty new at this and I have to look at my feet to find my feet. Finding the right pedals without looking has been about the hardest aspect for me so far.

Derrick Frank · From: Berkshire, England

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