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Topic: Nashville 400 vs. 112 - trade-offs? |
Scott Hiestand
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MA, U.S.A
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Posted 8 Jan 2009 6:48 am |
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| OK, I don't play out all that much but my 400 is just getting to darn heavy to lug around. From what I can see the weight difference is 67 lbs. vs. 43 lbs. so that sounds good, but....how much will I sacrifice in tone? Is it primarily bass response? I only do smallish gigs (usually inside but occasionally outdoors) so I am not that concerned with overall "power". I am also looking at a few used amps of different makes recommened by forum members here. The idea is if I could be happy with a 12" speaker, to unload the 400 - I really don't need 2 steel amps and I already have too many "toys" cluttering up my basement! Can I get by with a 112 or "clone-like" amp? |
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Billy Carr
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Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 8 Jan 2009 6:58 am amps
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| Personally, I used 400's for years. The NV-112 is my main amp now. Lightweight, easy to haul and just remember to turn up the lows and turn down the highs until you reach the desired tone. I also run my mids at about 7(am) and shift on 800. Reverb varies. Effects are only a DD3 delay box. Most steel shows and clubs mic amps, so volume is no problem. My 112 is stock, no mods. Guitar is a Magnum S-10D, 10-1 p/u, no mod on it either. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 8 Jan 2009 8:21 am
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| I also run my mids at about 7(am) |
AM or PM, wouldn't the hour hand still be in the same position?  |
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Roger Edgington
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2009 11:56 am
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| I think they are both good steel amps. it just matters on how much power you need. Some guys are using two NV112s. I have mostly heavy amps, but once in a while the lighter one looks good to me. I'm getting where I don't like to carry heavy stuff, but I don't want to sacrifice sound and sometimes we don't mike everything. Most of the time I use a Walker Stereo amp. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2009 4:02 pm
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I did not like my Nash 112 when I first got it, but I put in the Ken Fox chips (Fairly Easy Process)
Which produced a noticeable but small change.
Then I took the advice that the speaker needed to be broken in, so I played a CD player through it all day for almost a week and low and behold... it is a very good amp. Works VERY good for a 6 string guitar.
There is a clarity in the very bottom end that is not the same as my Session 400 or Fender Vibrosonic.
I do not find this a problem for live playing.
BUT !!! Now I can take the 112 amp in one hand and the U-12 in the other and walk off with them.
I wouldn't want do that with a D-10 and 15" speaker type Amp.
I like the Nashville 112.
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Trevor Fagan
From:
Newfoundland, Canada
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Posted 9 Jan 2009 8:12 am
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I sold my NV 400 a number of years ago, and Chris LeDrew recently hooked me up with a NV 112. Considerably lighter.... and I'm quite pleased with the sound.... great little amp.
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Mike Brown
From:
Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2009 7:26 pm Nashville 112
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Daniel Morris
From:
Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 19 Jan 2009 6:20 am
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It's the first time in my 35+ years of playing pedal steel that I've had 2 amps, a Nashville 400 and a 112. I do believe there is a bit of a difference in sound. When a recording engineer asked why I prefer the 400 (he's heard both), I simply told him it has more balls. The bass end is a bit stronger, and as someone told me, the 400 doesn't have to work as hard to get a full (and louder) sound as the 112. Yes, it's heavier, so I use the 112 when I can. I did find that I am unable to use my Eventide Eclipse processor with the 400, since the technologies are rather a mismatch. I've not had the same issue with pedals in the 400's rear loop (which Peavey recommended to me), nor have I found any problem using the Eclipse (or pedals) in the 112's post-EQ loop. I did find that, as many have stated here, the 112 does have a good sound and a pretty good amount of power. It just depends on how much difference YOU hear and what you need in an amp. Hope this helps a tad.
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 19 Jan 2009 6:47 am
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The preamp out/power amp in om the N-400 is line level or better, too strong for effects pedals. You can use the loop on the front of the amp with a lot more success with pedals, as it is lower in voltage output.
The preamp out has a nominal voltage of 1 volt and can swing to 8 volts!!
The pre EQ patch has a nominal output of 0.2 volts, much more suitable to for the effects pedals |
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