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dana Murphy

 

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clarksburg wv usa
Post  Posted 10 Jan 2009 6:33 pm    
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I have a Derby steel i have just bout. has a e66 & too me it sound a bit thin. what pickup do i need to get a warmer tone? enyone have Derby co phone no? thanks
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Bo Borland


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Post  Posted 10 Jan 2009 7:00 pm    
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Dana, You probably don't need a new pickup. If you bought it used the previous owner may have adjusted the pickup too close to the strings or too far away.
It may be adjusted out of level.
Put 2 quarters on the pick up on each side under the 1st and last strings and raise or lower the pickup until they just touch the strings.
Let me know how that works out for you.
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 10 Jan 2009 7:18 pm    
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If you can't get a warm tone with an E-66 on a Derby its not the pickup.
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 10 Jan 2009 7:58 pm    
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I have an E-66 on my Derby and I love it! That's not to say there isn't a better option, but my guitar has great warmth, yet singing 'highs'.

I'm a Derby convert, and this current SD-10 isn't going to be my last!!!
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Don Brown, Sr.

 

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New Jersey
Post  Posted 10 Jan 2009 9:09 pm    
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Folks, listen to this one. I won't mention the brand of Volume Pedal he had, but I will say, it's brand new. (It's also probably for sale now).

A man brought his Pedal Steel to me this afternoon, to find out the reason why it was sounding so horrible. Buzzing off of the (new) strings. No sustain hardly at all, etc. He'd put new pickups in, for feeling it was them. Long story. But to shorten it up TONS..

I asked him if he'd ever tried another volume pedal. His answer was yes! And the same thing. Simply a Tinny sounding steel for certain. It was also sounding like a buzz coming from the nut rollors. After checking them out, no problem was found there.

If I listed all of the things that he had tried to cure his problem, it would be too huge a list. Multiple amplifiers, with the same results as well.

I finally told him to hang on, and we were going to hook my "POT PEDAL" up to his steel, without changing any settings on the amp, etc. Simply a volume pedal swap. AND BINGO!!!

This steel had been driving this man up a wall, ever since the first day he bought it. No sustain to amount to a pinch of salt, and sounded like a cheap two dollar, tinny instrument. Pickups were adjusted right on, etc.

He left here late this evening with the biggest smile on his face I've ever seen. The steel instantly sounded like a million dollar guitar, and plays like a dream, with sustain out of this world.

Go figure!

Don
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Sonny Priddy

 

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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2009 9:15 am     Derby
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I Put A G.L.10-1 On My Derby Good Warm Full Sound. SONNY.
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Roger Francis

 

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kokomo,Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2009 10:08 am    
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I wold have to agree with Sonny, i had a derby with an E66 and i never could get to like this pickup, it's probably ok for some but every ones ears are different and i had to go to different PU before i was satisfied. Just MPO.
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Drew Howard


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Post  Posted 11 Jan 2009 10:41 am    
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E66's sounded then on my Derby D-10 and on my first Fessy SD-10. Truetones cured that.
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Bo Borland


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South Jersey -
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2009 3:33 pm    
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I still think they are not adjusted properly and maybe your amp too.
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John Bechtel


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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2009 4:08 pm    
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I've never purchased a used PSG until I bought my first SD-10 Derby, because; it was close enough for me to try-out first. The SD-10 had the stock E-66 P/U which I thought sounded a little too thin for my liking. So, I bought the guitar anyway, because; I was familiar with the Geo.L. 10–1 P/U and planned to have it replaced. This solved the sound-problem and then I decided to order a new D–10 Derby with 10–1 P/U's. And that's what I use now, along with a lot of better-known Derby~Steel players than myself! The Geo. L. 10–1 or Lawrence L–710 are my suggestions for your Derby PSG!
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Scott Hiestand

 

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MA, U.S.A
Post  Posted 12 Jan 2009 11:43 am    
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Before buying my Derby, I asked a lot of guys what PU they were using in theirs. I heard just about every response...710's, Truetones, Emmons single coils, 10-1s, etc. It seemed more folks had swapped out the E-66 than not. But after talking in some detail with Dana at Allsteelguitar, based on my amp (Nashville 400), playing style, etc. etc. he talked me into keeping the stock E-66's in there. I think I made the right choice. To me, this PU is warm and full, not thin, but obviously some feel differently. I'm happy with the E-66.

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Wayne Wallett

 

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Shermans Dale, PA USA - R.I.P.
Post  Posted 12 Jan 2009 12:08 pm     Derby Pickups
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Hello Fellas,
I bought a Derby D10 that was Terry Crisp's and it came with Geo-L Tommy White p-ups. Sounds totally awesome.... that way from Terry, need I say more. Terry has tone to the bone.
Wayne
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Johan Jansen


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Europe
Post  Posted 14 Jan 2009 9:19 am    
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As I see the instrument has it's tone from itsselve, the pick-up is a matter of taste.The Derby has a beautifull well balanced sound with the E66 from the factory. Players experimented with true-tones and BL 705's. It's different, not better or worse.
JJ
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Bo Borland


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South Jersey -
Post  Posted 14 Jan 2009 11:27 am    
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My own personal theory is that since "we all know and agree" Rolling Eyes Laughing that a largest part of a players tone starts with his hands, a highly experienced player may decide, after playing a particular model, that to get the most out of that steel, he should put in a particular pickup.
That doesn't mean that everyone who plays his steel will sound like he does.
I think that's why Buddy or Lloyd or any of our favorites sound like themselves (within reason.. we have all heard E play the Sierra) no matter what steel they play.
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 14 Jan 2009 11:46 am    
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".. since "we all know and agree"... Rolling Eyes Very Happy

Bo! Have you forgotten where you are???
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