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Topic: How about all pulls? |
Glen Derksen
From: Alberta, Canada
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Posted 11 Jan 2009 11:35 am
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I know much has been said about how wonderful Emmons PP steels are, and it makes me wish I had one, but how many players on this forum are satisfied with their all pull steels? |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 11 Jan 2009 11:44 am
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glen, i've got 2 p/p's but i play my old all pull zum for serious picking. it's a superior guitar in my opinion. |
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Marc Jenkins
From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 11 Jan 2009 11:51 am
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Have a look around for all the posts from happy Sho~Bud, ZB, MSA, Carter, Emmons Legrande players, to mention only a few! |
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Cliff Kane
From: the late great golden state
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Posted 11 Jan 2009 12:32 pm
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The majority of players are quite happy using all-pulls. People drop big bucks on new state-of-the-art steels, and these are almost all all-pull guitars. With a good all-pull you can do things with splits that you can't do with a push-pull, and they are way easier to change things around on and adjust. In many ways a pro all-pull is a superior guitar to a push-pull, and I would guess that the majortiy of all-pull players would be feel handicapped and less than happy playing a push-pull after being used to working with a good all-pull.
That being said, there is something unique to the sound and feel of playing a push-pull, and the machanics and design of a push-pull are excellent. For many players who appreciate the push-pull nothing else will replace it. I am very lucky to have an all-pull EMCI that I love and use all the time; but I also have a push-pull that is most satisfying to play. If I had to make the horrible choice of only being able to have one guitar, it would be a push-pull. |
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Jim Park
From: Carson City, Nv
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Posted 11 Jan 2009 12:45 pm all pulls
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I have a Fessenden that stays in tune, doesnt break strings, sounds great, plays easily......... I really enjoy the guitar. But there are SOOOOO many great guitars out there that you cant hardly go wrong with any of them. There are guitars for every budget and playing type available. I also have a P/P that I played for years too........all pulls are easier to work on .IMHO |
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Joey Ace
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 11 Jan 2009 1:53 pm
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I'm very satisfied with my two all pull PSGs, a Carter and a GFI.
In the past I've owned two Emmons PPs, a D10 and an S10.
I also owned an MSA S10 and a Carter D10 .
All fine instruments. All had different strengths. |
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Larry Bell
From: Englewood, Florida
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Posted 11 Jan 2009 3:46 pm
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My push-pull and my Sho=Bud usually stay at home.
The handsome fellow on the left usually leaves the house with me. It rarely fails but when it does, it's easy to diagnose and fix on the spot. Not so with the older guitars. It is nice to have them around for their characteristic sound but the Fessy sounds great too. _________________ Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
My CD's: 'I've Got Friends in COLD Places' - 'Pedal Steel Guitar'
2021 Rittenberry S/D-12 8x7, 1976 Emmons S/D-12 7x6, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Quilter ToneBlock 202 TT-12 |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 12 Jan 2009 3:13 am
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I had a 71 D-10 PP Emmons (black of course ) and when I got my new Franklin D-10 in Dec 81, it was no contest and the Emmons was sold in Feb 82. |
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Scott Hiestand
From: MA, U.S.A
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Posted 12 Jan 2009 11:25 am
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If you are searching for the "Holy Grail" of tone, nothing beats a PP IMHO (except maybe a ZB ). But once you start considering other factors (playability, maintenance, weight, parts, ect.) then it becomes a trade-off. I think the majority of players here are quite satisfied with their all-pulls, especially considering PP's have gone way up in price compared to all-pulls.
I love my ZB (which is kind of a unique animal anyway) and my Derby. Both have great tone. That said, I miss my PP's and would love another someday but, for right now...I'm satisfied in the "all-pull" world. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 12 Jan 2009 1:18 pm
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I have owned 2-ZB's, a Kline, a Sho~Bud Super Pro, Carter, Williams and a Sho~Bud Professional. Loved all of them except the Super-Pro. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 15 Jan 2009 3:21 pm
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Unlike some players, I don't really care what brand anyone uses. I think a good player can sound great on just about any brand. That said, I find that all-pulls serve me quite well. I've had a p/p for about 10 years, but still prefer to play my all pull guitars. |
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Glen Derksen
From: Alberta, Canada
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Posted 15 Jan 2009 6:36 pm
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Scott Hiestand wrote: |
If you are searching for the "Holy Grail" of tone, nothing beats a PP IMHO (except maybe a ZB ). But once you start considering other factors (playability, maintenance, weight, parts, ect.) then it becomes a trade-off. I think the majority of players here are quite satisfied with their all-pulls, especially considering PP's have gone way up in price compared to all-pulls.
I love my ZB (which is kind of a unique animal anyway) and my Derby. Both have great tone. That said, I miss my PP's and would love another someday but, for right now...I'm satisfied in the "all-pull" world. |
I think the term "Holy Grail" depends on the individual. Even though I like the sound of pp Emmons steels, and being an old fashioned type of guy who steers away from trends, I prefer the old Lloyd Green/Shobud type of sound. |
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