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Joseph Barcus
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Volga West Virginia
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 1:13 pm |
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so you work your butt off and you feel like your ready for the big boys. what does one need to do to find out about auditions for the artist is there a magazine out that post such things? thanks for any input to come
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 1:50 pm
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I would think you have to be known or recommended by someone. It's also probably a given you should be young and good-looking, and it also helps a lot to be a multi-instrumentalist. As far as I can tell, they seem to have no use for older players (over 40), or those that don't have versatility and visual appeal - no matter how good they are.  |
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Joseph Barcus
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Volga West Virginia
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Les Anderson
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The Great White North
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 2:13 pm
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| It's also probably a given you should be young and good-looking, and it also helps a lot to be a multi-instrumentalist. As far as I can tell, they seem to have no use for older players (over 40), |
Dido, dido on both of those Donny. I would say that being versatile on more than one instrument will get you over many barriers.
The age thing is a reality that us older players have to recognize and accept. I have been turned down for at least four gig jobs in the past couple of years solely because of my age. Even though I can play five instruments, age was the deciding factor.
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Junior Knight
From:
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 2:22 pm
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 2:23 pm
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| dildo on all of that...stars have been begging my sixty year old butt to play with them...they say it's cause i'm so cute, it hugely increases their female fan base. but i'm too busy with my own career at the liar's club! |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 3:09 pm
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You can always hire Stonewall Jackson as a consultant. He knows how to fight the age thing.
I've said it before. There's more good players than their is good music to play. |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 4:25 pm
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| Get in line. The line starts in Cleveland. |
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Hal Higgins
From:
Denham Springs, LA
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 8:06 pm
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Double Juniors AAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEEENNNNNNNN. It doesn't matter that you have years of experience and played for some of the big boys and gals in years gone by......and I'm only 58......that's not old, is it? HAL
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 17 Dec 2008 8:23 pm
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| Hey Donny, I'm going to start wearing a mask, sun glasses, a hat to hide my white hair, and a long black robe. That way they can't tell how old I am, and they might assume I do magic tricks. |
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Roual Ranes
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Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 5:22 am
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| I read somewhere that you also have to have a black hat. |
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Cal Sharp
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the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 7:27 am
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All true, unfortunately. You have to make the age thing work for you and not against you. Grow a long white beard, smoke a pipe, and quote Sarte and Nietzsche in casual conversation. Exude an aura of the damaged individual who has looked desolation and malevolence in the eye, tottered on the brink of self destruction and barely made it back to reality. The black hat will make you look cooler on stage. Be a character.
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 8:02 am
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| Actually I started dressing up for steel shows around 4 years ago. Amish black hat, black graduation robe,either a mask or big sun glasses. At the Siloam Springs, Arkansas Show, I came on stage with this outfit, and had a glowing battery powered blue wire light around my neck. It was a shocking event for the audience, as they didn't know how to react. Kind of like cattle when they first see a goat walk across their pasture. The cattle didn't know wheather to run, cry, laugh,or just stay motionless until some other cow made a move. I had this same outfit on when I played the steel show in Marshfield, Missouri 3 years ago. In addition to the outfit, I came out carrying a decoy turkey. I went to the microphone and ask the turkey if it liked Ray Price music. I manually nodded the turkey's head forcing it to say "YES". I can guarantee you I can play the type of music Robert Randolph plays, if the band can follow it. I gurantee you I can have a more interesting stage dress than Robert Randolph. Fact is, I would like to do a show with Robert Randolph. Singers won't allow a side man to dress up in an interesting stage outfit and play country music. You draw way too much attention away from the ego of the singer. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 8:31 am
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If you are talking about the few available gigs with the new country pop touring guys then maybe age has something to do with it. I do know quite a few players in there 50"s who work with those guys though. As far as gigs go with people paying real money age is meaning less and less as far as I can tell. I am playing with one woman well into her 40's who is being courted by major management and labels. They don't care about age. One of the main groups of people that still buys music is the adult contemporary market. They want quality music that doesn't frighten them. The only times I run into the age issue personally its more about working conditions and money than actual age. Basicly, I won't rehearse for free or sit in a van for 2 months for $400 a week anymore.
Think about how much pedal steel is on NPR. Its seems to be on every other bumper and that market has nothing at all to do with the "Big Boys". Plenty of guys are making a very good living well off of the pop country grid.
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Paul Wade
From:
mundelein,ill
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 10:27 am playing big time
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i gave up trying to get with big name act's 25 years ago  i have always playing with people in my age
group. i play with a bar band right now who are
in my age group that could give the younger bucks
a run for there money  at 60 years old i will play with the old farts  |
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John McGlothlin
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 12:48 pm
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I'm happy to announce that I am getting ready to begin working on my second record album. I gave up on my first one LOL  LOL |
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Joseph Barcus
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Volga West Virginia
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 18 Dec 2008 2:37 pm
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| Hey Cal, thats not fair! You peeked. |
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Matthew Prouty
From:
Warsaw, Poland
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Posted 19 Dec 2008 1:22 am
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Ah the joys of youth!
I hear this line every show I play:
"Wow I have never seen a steel player as young as you!"
Is it my playing that gets me gigs or my age? Who cares at least I am playing.
I want to see one of Keith Hilton's show.
m. |
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Danny Bates
From:
Fresno, CA. USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2008 4:01 am
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You may have to "uglify"
Willy won't let you join his band if you look better than he does 
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 19 Dec 2008 6:21 am
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| Bob, don't go to Branson, Missouri if you expect to get paid for rehearsing. There are so many looking for a job, rehearsing for free is the norm. When the Shows start getting ready in the Spring, it is nothing for players to rehearse two months without pay. I suspect the same is true of Nashville. |
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 19 Dec 2008 10:24 am
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| You may have to "uglify." |
. . . and he appears as pretty stiff competition! |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 19 Dec 2008 11:39 am
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| Hey Willie, get an Epilady! |
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Mark Treepaz
From:
Hamburg, New York USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2008 3:48 pm
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| Keith Hilton wrote: |
| I gurantee you I can have a more interesting stage dress than Robert Randolph. |
 Boy! You aren't kidding Keith!
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 20 Dec 2008 10:41 am
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| Plenty of guys are making a very good living well off of the pop country grid. |
Dunno about "plenty". I could think of 15-20, maybe. In a country of thousands of musicians and bands, I'd consider that "a few".
YMMV, of course. |
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