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Topic: Who is near me that could change my Sho-Bud E9 set-up? |
G. Robertson
From: California, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 1:15 am
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I'm in the high desert 2 hours East of LA. Can anyone steer me to the best person to change the knee and floor set-up on my recently purchased Sho-Bud Professional D10 from it's current CBA pedal set-up to ABC. Also need to move my 4&8 knee lower from LKL to RKL. Is this something I could undertake myself via on-line instructional sources or is it best left to a pro? |
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Dick Sexton
From: Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 2:03 am High Desert
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I met a fellow once in the Yucca Valley area while I was stationed at 29 Palms during 1980, USMC. I had had my first steel for about 4 months, he was helpful. His name was Lee Jeffriess, an experienced player. I think he is still around and a forum member, but not sure if he could help. Pretty sure he wouldn't remember me and my Cherokee S10 though, it was a brief encounter. I sat in with Don and Jenny at the Sun Valley Inn in a small place called Joshua Tree. Best of luck, DS |
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Jon Light
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 3:31 am
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Is this something I could undertake myself via on-line instructional sources or is it best left to a pro? |
This is not rocket surgery and it is something that anyone with decent mechanical sense can handle. HOWEVER:
If you do not have some experience underneath the guitar there are a lot of little things that can cause you to end up with a steel that plays poorly. Probably more likely than not. I think it would be a mistake to do such major work yourself, as a first project on a 'player' guitar unless you value 'learning experiences'.
OTOH, as you probably know, if you get into trouble there is a world of help available right here and I for one will not sneer if you dig yourself a hole--I'll congratulate you for trying. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 5:58 am
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Jim Palenscar has a Steel Guitar shop in Oceanside. Is that too far to go?
http://www.stlgitr.com/ |
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Craig A Davidson
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 6:05 am
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It is not a real hard job. It just takes time and patience. The bell crank from the first pedal needs to be removed and put on the third. That would probably be the worst part as you almost have to de-rod the guitar to get the cross shaft moved around enough to get the bell crank out and then repeat the operation to get to crank in it's new place. Unless you have a rack and barrel system and then it would be just a matter of moving rods around. If you are lucky when you change the knees you will already have the same number of pulls on each knee, so you just swap rods and slide the bell cranks. |
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Don Sulesky
From: Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 6:13 am
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As Craig mentioned it can be done with patience.
And you may have to move a bell crank or two.
When I bought my 2nd SuperPro from Ebay it was set up like yours.
What I did was completely remove all the rods and rebuilt the whole rodding setup to my liking.
I must admit I've had experience doing this before so it wasn't a problem, just time consuming.
The worst part is those darn clips they used to attach the rods to the bellcranks.
Don |
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Craig A Davidson
From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 6:20 am
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Don, Gar has a Professional so the clips shouldn't be a problem as they have none. They do, however have barrels but those are easy enough to set. One thing is for sure when the job is finished a person knows a lot more about how his or her guitar works. |
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Don Sulesky
From: Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 7:18 am
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Craig
I couldn't agree more.
When it came to rerodding my Emmons LeGrande II, other than a better design on the bellcranks as I did not have to remove the crossrods to move bellcranks it was a snap.
My 1st ShoBud Pro 1 had the brass ball connectors so i'm famaliar with both setups.
Don |
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Rick Schmidt
From: Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 7:39 am
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Gar...I'm pretty sure your Professional has the "Rack and Barrel" system, and if that's the case, it's pretty easy to do the work yourself....at least when changing the A & C pedals is concerned. If you have to add the hardware for any KL's, you'd better see Jim Palenscar. (which I highly recommend anyway!) |
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Andy Sandoval
From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 8:26 am
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Gar, Larry Petree might be able to help you too. He lives here in Bakersfield. |
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Peter Freiberger
From: California, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 9:24 am
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Jim Palenscar would do a great job (A trip to Jim's shop is always fun. There's a lot to see and fool with), but you're probably closer to Larry Petree in Bakersfield, and his work is impeccable as well. I have had excellent dealings with both. |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 9:41 am
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I'd take it to Blackie Taylor in Riverside! He's the man for the job.........JH in Va. _________________ Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!! |
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G. Robertson
From: California, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 10:10 am
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Wow. A dozen replies overnight. I'm real tickled to be a participant in this generous community.
Dick - I know Lee as a gentleman and a great upright bass player out here. Then he recently sat down at my steel and started swinging some serious C6 stuff, so I'll add modest to his description.
In that the Professional is indeed rack and barrel, I may just give it a go myself. Can't be much harder than rebuilding a flathead Ford. Wish me luck, comrades.
I'm very grateful for all the leads and good advice! |
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Mark Carlisle
From: Springville CA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 11:43 am Blackie
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I had PM'ed Gar about taking it to Blackie in Riverside. He's more than capable of the task, and a great guy to get to know. He's like a walking piece of history about the vintage So Cal country music scene. Also, Gar mentioned he was two hours east of LA and that must put him fairly close to Riverside. Also while there, check out the GFI guitars-I recall Blackie was involved with getting Gene off the ground. |
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Jerry Malvern
From: Menifee, California, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 2:34 pm
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Gar, I just sent you an email. |
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Billy Tonnesen
From: R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 6:30 pm
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I think Blackie's store is in Rubidoux, next to Riverside. I'm sure he won't mind, the last phone number I had for him was 909 / 686-4010 (TAYLOR MUSIC) |
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Rick Schmidt
From: Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 8 Dec 2008 6:38 pm
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Blackie is definitely an expert...and...pretty close to the hight desert. A mainstay of the steel guitar scene here in SoCal for a long time! |
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G. Robertson
From: California, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2008 1:51 am
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I want to send a big thank you to Jerry Malvern, who emailed me generously offering to walk me through what I needed to do over the phone tonight. With his rack and barrel knowledge, he steered me to a couple of "ah-ha" discoveries which I was very unlikely to have stumbled on to without his direction. An hour after we hung up I had my pedals and knees swapped the way I wanted them and just finished tuning her up. I know a whole lot more about my guitar than I did a few hours ago!
Thanks again to everyone for the referrals and encouragement. You're a fine bunch. |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 9 Dec 2008 2:41 pm
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good work....i was going to post my usual 'if you can't do it yourself, you don't deserve it' sermon. i guess you deserve it, brother! |
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