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Topic: C6 Pedal Changes/Chord Explanation |
Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 20 Jan 2001 12:14 pm |
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I've added a product on my website that some of y'all might be interested in.
Since one of the stumbling blocks to learning C6 for an E9 player is figuring out the arcane changes of the pedals, I wrote a 6 page booklet on what the pedals/levers do on a 5 pedal/4 knee copedent, and the chords I find using these changes.
It does not discuss chord progressions or jazz, just what chords I find in open position with these pedals.
I include this booklet with my
Texas Dance Time! Tablature Book, but I offer it by itself for $5.00, plus $1.50 for s&h.
Check it out here.
I now take PayPal, incidentally. 
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Herb's Steel Guitar Pages
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Ricky Davis
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Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 20 Jan 2001 12:56 pm
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Well if ya finally want the weird C6th neck layed out for ya>"THIS IS IT". You can't get a better explaination than what comes from Herb Steiner folks.
I'll take two my friend.
Checks in the mail.
Ricky |
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Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 20 Jan 2001 1:26 pm
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What's wrong with this picture? The first order from the guy who needs it least? 
Ricky, after hearing you the other night at the Longhorn, I should be taking lessons from you!
My friend, Dale and I are both extremely lucky to be among your buddies!
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Jon Light
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 21 Jan 2001 10:02 am
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Mr. Herb. I'm gonna ask Ricky to run off a copy of that and send it to me. OK? 
If not, a question--
My Universal 12 doesn't do a number of 5P 4L things. Looking at Buddy's setup as I write this, my 4th string lower would be on a split with the B pedal (my 6th string) my 4th string raise would be my B pedal, my 3rd string lower--well that's ok..X lever--and the 3rd string raise would be a split either with the A pedal or the 7th pedal (well actually it's my 5th pedal).
In other words my setup is a bloody mess for standard C6 (B6) stuff.
Without asking you to dissect it or do my homework for me, do you reckon there's enough useful stuff left in your booklet for me to chew on? 'Cause I'm always finding that yet another person's presentation of this kind of stuff always seems to kick-start some new understandings in me with this stuff.
If you think the answer is yeah, then please email me your Paypal handle so I can go ahead and order it.
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Arlen Reed
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Casper, Wyoming USA
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Posted 21 Jan 2001 11:09 am
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| Herb: Will you be at the Dallas Jamboree this year? If so I will get my copy of your C6th information at that time. Thanks |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 21 Jan 2001 12:01 pm
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Jon
My C6 copedent is just like Big E's, and it's shown here.
If you don't have all these changes, or if you use other methods to obtain these notes, you'd have to do some modification of your thought processes to achieve the chords as shown, which is probably a healthy thing musically. The reason being, instead of just looking at the book and thinking, "cool, this is the chord because Herb says it is," you must use the ol' gray matter to analyze how to get those notes in a different way than the one shown. Ergo, personal growth.
In other words, I think you could probably get something out of the booklet, though I did not intend for it to be 100% applicable to the variety of Universal tunings out there. Ball is back in your court, lemme know by email whassup with your desires.
Arlen
I will be in Dallas and look forward to meeting you there.
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 21 Jan 2001 12:32 pm
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| Excellent answer Herb. See your email. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 21 Jan 2001 1:13 pm
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| Herb, don't tell me I have to think. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 21 Jan 2001 1:32 pm
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Earnest, I was telling Jon he had to think. I don't think you have to think, and don't think I'd tell ya to either!
Are you coming to Dallas, BTW?
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 21 Jan 2001 5:58 pm
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Jon- There is no reason for you not to be able to get the C6 pulls on your Universal tuning. They are all pretty much standard pulls.
Pedals 5-6-7 are the same as Alvino Rey used in 1940 on his 6 pedal Gibson Electra-harp.
Only his was relative to E6 tuning rather than the C6 or B6 tuning. Same pulls.
I am glad to see Herb putting out a book on the C6th. It sure should help all the E9 guys that want to try C6.
These have all been Buddy Emmons standard pulls as far back as I can remember.
If there is any way I can help you, please Email to me and I will go into detail, if you wish...OK?.....al |
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