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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 7:41 pm    
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Any of you ever heard this?

http://blackgrooves.org/?p=804
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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 7:50 pm    
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Nope, sounds interesting though. Smile
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Dave Mudgett


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 7:51 pm    
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It's on my 'to get' list, but I haven't heard it yet. But this general approach is probably the center of where I'm at musically right now. I contend that classic black soul and R&B shares a great deal with country music - they're all highly melodic, heavily influenced by church music, and speak to real life.

Per that review - I don't think any of this would have made Hank Williams blush at all. I can't listen to Hank and not hear the strong influence black music had on him, and thus all country music that followed.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 9:22 pm    
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Joe Tex recorded a bunch of Country music.
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Dave Mudgett


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 9:32 pm    
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Joe Tex, absolutely. And Solomon Burke did a country album recently - it's killer. Gatemouth Brown always played fiddle at gigs, and could hoedown with style - he always said he did not play blues - that it was just American Music, and I couldn't agree more.

Or listen to Conway Twitty and Sam Moore doing "Rainy Night in Georgia." There's lots of great music that fuses these kinds of ideas.
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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 9:37 pm    
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music is the one thing that is truly color blind
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Stu Schulman


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 9:38 pm    
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Joe Simon who recorded "Drowing in the Sea Of Love" did a Country record called "Simon Country" a long time ago. Winking
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Alvin Blaine


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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 10:10 pm    
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I thought this was going to be a thread about one of my favorite bands "The Carolina Chocolate Drops", the current resurgence of "Black String Bands", and the "Black Banjo Gathering" that took place last week.


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Mitch Drumm

 

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Post  Posted 5 Apr 2010 10:34 pm    
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From 1971, engineered by Scotty Moore and produced by Pete Drake. The same Otis Williams who was a hit R and B artist 15 years earlier. Pretty good LP. "I Wanna Go Couhtry" was a minor hit.







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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 6 Apr 2010 4:49 am    
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Bobby Womack: BW Goes C&W L.P.
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Don Drummer

 

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Post  Posted 6 Apr 2010 6:01 am    
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.....Martin'Bogan and Armstrong
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LJ Eiffert

 

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Post  Posted 6 Apr 2010 6:54 am    
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Some great neighborhood black country singers in Southern California at one time was Cookie Jackson,Doug Wilson,Eddie Marie,Howdy Glenn & Artie Morris. Brutal Leo
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Post  Posted 6 Apr 2010 12:09 pm    
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Is that Otis Williams from The Temptations?
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Mitch Drumm

 

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Post  Posted 6 Apr 2010 5:54 pm    
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Kevin:

No.

Here is the guy I referred to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otis_Williams_and_the_Charms
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George Rozak


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Post  Posted 6 Apr 2010 6:24 pm    
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Here's an old Fats Domino tune complete with steel:

Whisky Heaven
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Jerry Hayes


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Post  Posted 7 Apr 2010 11:07 am    
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Mitch, I have that LP record of "Otis Williams & the Midnight Cowboys" it features all black musicians on the recording along with Otis.......

Leo and some of you old SoCal players might remember a guy who did guest spots all over the LA area who called himself "N----R Boy". I even have one of his promo photos. He was a pretty good singer and used to say that he even had that name on his driver's license.... He must have really caught a lot of flack from the African/American population for using that name don't you think?......JH in Va.
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LJ Eiffert

 

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Post  Posted 7 Apr 2010 4:39 pm    
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Jerry, yes he did get a lot of you know what at him for that.I helped him with his record and his real name was " Lee Coleman " and he was not from California. Whoa! His Kay Kay Kay fishing women might come and get me! I'm going to the skylight. Winking Brutal Leo J.Eiffert,Jr.
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Fred Jack

 

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Post  Posted 7 Apr 2010 8:47 pm     So Cal
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Jerry, Any of ya'all remember Stuff Smith? Played the H xxxx out of a fiddle.
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Ron Epperson

 

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Post  Posted 8 Apr 2010 2:47 pm     Black Music
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any of you know MR JIM BROOKES from norco now there is a real cowboy singer plus a good roper him and his wife CONNIE also teach ropping to the kids
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Archie Nicol R.I.P.


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Post  Posted 8 Apr 2010 4:40 pm    
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I can't believe no one has mentioned `Slade`. A genuine Black Country band.

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Skip Edwards

 

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Post  Posted 9 Apr 2010 10:40 am    
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I remember him, Jerry. He would show us all his license everytime he'd show up at the Pal talent night. He'd do a bit with the audience about his name and then launch into something like "Crystal Chandeliers".
Wonder whatever became of him?
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 10 Apr 2010 6:52 am    
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Lest we forget Stoney Edwards...
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Pete Finney

 

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Post  Posted 10 Apr 2010 10:58 am    
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Apparently it may be out of print, but the Country Music Foundation in Nashville did a pretty stellar and thorough look at the subject. The track list alone is pretty educational and there's some great, little heard music...

http://tinyurl.com/y5gjvql

http://tinyurl.com/y3lsqx8
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Mitch Drumm

 

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Post  Posted 10 Apr 2010 12:52 pm    
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Pete:

I just looked at the track list you linked to and see that the definition of "black country music" seems to be in the eyes of the beholder.

Does it mean a recording by a black artist of a song most commonly associated with country music?

Or does it mean a recording by a black artist in what most people would consider a "country music" style with "country" instrumentation.

Anyone who has heard Wynonie Harris' version of Bloodshot Eyes or Al Downing's "Down On The Farm" is not likely to think of country music.

That 3 CD set seems to have used the first definition above as a qualifier.
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Pete Finney

 

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Post  Posted 10 Apr 2010 3:40 pm    
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Mitch,

It seems to me they used both of your definitions (not just the first one) plus several more in being as inclusive as possible in covering as many of the possible interactions as they could over three CDs. I personally think that's a good thing...
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