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Topic: E13 instructions? |
Edward Meisse
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Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2008 9:30 pm |
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Playing C6 came pretty naturally to me. I can also play the, "Hawaiian," E13 (E-C#-B-G#-E-D) from high to low without any trouble. But I find McAulliffe's E13 (E-C#-B-G#-F#-D) high to low totally perplexing. Is there any reasonably thorough instructional material for this tuning?
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 12 Nov 2008 8:26 am
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I don't know of any such instructional material for that tuning, sorry.
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Fred
From:
Amesbury, MA
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Posted 13 Nov 2008 6:37 pm
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Dick Meis at www.pedalsteelguitar.net has a book of tab with a cd for an eight string version of McAulliffe's tuning.
Fifteen western swing and Hank Williams tunes.
E
C#
B
G#
F#
D
B (McAulliffe used a G# here)
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Nov 2008 8:04 pm
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Edward-I used to teach Guitar and play in the Santa Rosa, Petaluma area.
I had a similiar tuning onmy D8 in 1938--top down-
E-D-B-G#-F#-D-B-G#...When I want the 13sound, I tuned the 2nd string down to C#.
The reason is that I got a lot out of my tuning, Diminished, BMi6,E9th,E7th
Lots of stuff there for a non pedal...al.
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Jon Nygren
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2008 12:23 pm
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That tuning can be weird 'cause i find myself always hunting for the root somewhere other than that one lonely E string..  I think thats why it comes off a bit less 'intuitive' than other tunings.
Love that tuning for jazzy stuff. Almost need an 8 string though, easier that way..IMO. |
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Edward Meisse
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Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2008 4:11 pm
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Thanks, Fred. I'm checking it out. Yes, Jon. That's one of my problems. Thanks to everyone who tried to help.
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Lee Jeffriess
From:
Vallejo California
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Posted 14 Nov 2008 10:44 pm
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Try building ideas out of the 4 position.
I think its easy for people to be intimidated by this tuning.
There is a lot of music in it, and some of its implied.
Use the force.
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Chris Scruggs
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Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2008 1:48 pm
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Yes! "Implied" is the key word for this tuning. Alot of guys don't use this great tuning because it lacks the root note in the middle. This is the stringth of this E13. Almost like the way a jazz piano player avoids the root with his left hand so as to not step on the bass player, you get bigger, jazzier and more IMPLIED chords.
Look at the high four strings as the base for this tuning, this is a 6th chord just like your used to. Then start picking from the low four strings for bottom.
Leon, Noel Boggs and the other big players of this tuning often used it for big chords. If you keep to three string grabs, you will sound very confident on this tuning. Any grouping of three strings together sounds great on this neck, so mess with different grips. Lee's right, 4 chords sound great on E13. Strings 5, 6 and 7 make for a great 9th chord on the root right before you go to the 4 chord, too. Play it one fret sharp of where the root is and then slide it down.
Seldom is this a "melody" tuning. It is best used for
chordal improvisation. For single string work, look at it as the high 5 strings of A6 with the 3rd, 4th and 5th strings tuned up a step. So find runs that incorporate 3, 4 and 5 played two frets lower than A6 and then slide up on the second string to complete the phrase on the first string. Does that make any since?
Once you figure out the "personality" of the tuning, you will find it easy and a joy to play. It's explosive, jazzy, and makes you feel like you're playing in Hollywood in the early '50s. Perhaps the only downside to this tuning is it's hard NOT to sound like you're in Hollywood in the early fifties. Let's just say it doesn't lend itself to George Jones, Buck Owens, Merle Haggard or Connie Smith songs. But if you want to swing hard, this is the best place to be.
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2008 7:43 am
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I prefer to use the following C13 configuration from top to bottom
C#
G#
E
B
G#
E
D
B
All tunings a subjective and will probably be hard to find written instructions.
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 19 Nov 2008 5:30 pm
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C13th?
Also the top-down string notes are MOST unusual even given the E13th that they are..
I must admit I've NEVER seen the top string as a C#. |
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