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James Mayer


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Post  Posted 6 Nov 2008 1:40 pm    
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270298141808&_trksid=p2759.l1259

The description tells the story, but how good are these steels? Are they reputedly as good as Fenders? What's with the tremolo lever? Is that for all strings or simply for one string like a pedal steel?[/url]
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basilh


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Post  Posted 6 Nov 2008 2:34 pm    
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James it's not a tremolo bar, it's a chord/tuning changer giving A high bass, E7 or C#m tunings..depending on the lever position.Some of these units were very accurate and others only so-so.
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Casey Lowmiller

 

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Post  Posted 6 Nov 2008 3:19 pm    
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It's my understanding that the Whites are as good as the Fenders. Same guitar...just different logos!!!

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Rich Hlaves


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Post  Posted 6 Nov 2008 3:51 pm    
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Hi James,

The White brand got its name from Fender Sales Manager Forest White. This brand was developed to sell guitars and amps to music schools and other sales outlets without "upseting" Fender dealers. The White guitar in the ebay listing is the same a Fender Champ, Identical except for the decal that says "White". That particular has an after market device to change tuning by moving a lever as stated above.

I have been watching the value of Fender Champs and Studio Deluxes for the last couple of years. The White brand guitars consistantly bring higher values on ebay. I would like to own a White brand guitar and amp. Cool bit of Fender history and there are not that many around. This only happend for a couple of years.

RH
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James Mayer


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Post  Posted 6 Nov 2008 5:30 pm    
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Another difference that I see is that the output jack is on the top rather than the side. Maybe, I'm wrong, but I never see old Fenders with the jack on the top.
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Richard Shatz


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Post  Posted 6 Nov 2008 5:32 pm    
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Exactly what Rich said.
I use to own this White set.

http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r39/rnshatz/Fender%20White/

It's a Champ with legs. I'm pretty sure the amp is the same as the Princeton of that era.

I didn't care for the sound of it as much as the Champ I owned at the time. I wasn't too impressed with the amp either.

I sold the set six or seven years ago for $1200. That was about twice what I payed about two years earlier. I soon realized that the amp alone was worth almost that much at that time.

What a great affectation.
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Rich Hlaves


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Post  Posted 6 Nov 2008 8:16 pm    
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The Champs and Studio Deluxe and White too for that matter where entry level guitars with single pickups, strat style before the strat was a twinkle in Leo Fender's eye. All the output jacks on these where on the control plate. You may be thinking of the Deluxe 6 or 8 models, basically single neck, two pickup Stringmasters that have the jack on the audience side. My Studio Deluxe (champ with legs) is in the foreground with the Deluxe 8 behind in the pic below.




I like my Studio Deluxe and play it often. It came to me without electronics so I had Jason Lollar make me a pickup. It is a little hotter and a little fuller than my Champ (no legs). There is no comparison between these guitars and the Deluxe 8 however.

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RH

PS: the Studio Deluxe is also a little thicker body wise. I guess to make room for the leg brackets.
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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2008 6:11 am    
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I've bought and sold several White lap steels over the years. To my ears, the tone is very thin and there isn't much sustain. Nice looking, historical guitars, but they were student models and they sound like student models. Here's a picture of the last one I sold:




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