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John Poston

 

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Albuquerque, NM, USA
Post  Posted 29 Sep 2008 1:42 pm    
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How easy is it to add knee levers to these? I had a quick look at one and the changer seemed to be more conventional, except for the tuning of the lowers. It seems like a double-raise is possible, but only a single lower.
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J Fletcher

 

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London,Ont,Canada
Post  Posted 1 Oct 2008 6:33 am    
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If it's the "Maverick" equivalent Fender, I've heard extra knees can be added, though it's not that easy if you are trying to raise and lower the same string. Say raising and lowering your "E"'s. They came with one lever that lowered the low E, and also lowered the 2nd string. As far as I know. They didn't lower the high E, because the C pedal was raising that string...Jerry
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Bob Hickish


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Port Ludlow, Washington, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 1 Oct 2008 1:28 pm    
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JP

I have had one of these guitars sense the early 70's and always enjoyed it
for its light weight . it is posable to add levers but the pull-release type system
does limit some changes - I found it requires a finger stop installed , I used a small
angel with set screws to do this - it allows you to tune the E' lower to Ed/D# and tune the E's with tuning nut . there is a little slack in the rig however . to get the raze & lower withe the C pedal you will need to drill another hole in the changer finger . bobbe supplied me with a Sho-Bud Pro 1 changer , and sense rebuilt the guitar again . Its a grate little ax for the off the wall jobs / gigs - I can post some photos if that would help .
Mr. J fletcher ( above ) and I talked about this a long time back , he had a fender changer for sale but we never made the deal . By the way ! if you change to a later
changer you will have to add the overlay neck but you can use the same fret board
and roller nut , tuning pans etc.

by the way, Its a 3 & 4

Hick
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Paul Redmond

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 1 Oct 2008 11:32 pm    
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Refer to "Hot Rod Maverick" about mid-November 2007 in the Forum archives. It presently has 3 and 5 with a Sacred Steel lock. Yes, it can be done. This one came equipped with the narrow Fender pedals and was supposedly a 1977 model which I bought new in November 1978 out of a display window in Elgin IL at Capitol Music. It has basically the same changer system the S-B Fender's had and no raised neck or keyhead. S-B used burl elm shelf paper and Fender used black shelf paper. The innards were about the same at the time, but there were many changes made on these in those years on both sides of the fence.
PRR
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Jim Sliff


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Lawndale California, USA
Post  Posted 2 Oct 2008 4:53 am    
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I had one and took it to Blackie Taylor to see if the same mods could be done. He said...and now, years, later, I understand why - that it could be done but would be an incredible waste of money. With the cost/time of the major surgery required you end up with a wood box pedal steel with knee levers, fixed legs, no real "neck", horrible cabinet drop, all the sustain of a banjo and everything but the tuners and pickup made as cheaply as possible.

If you had time to do it yourself just for fun it might be OK, but you could buy a GOOD guitar for what it would cost to have a tech do it - and in one case you'd have have a self-modded lousy guitar, and another a tech-modded lousy guitar.

If you want a decent steel buy one IMO. Mine was the worst POS steel I ever owned, and I have had some BAD ones!

You can put a $5,000 paint job, a big V-8, power windows/locks,heated seats and a custom sound system in a Pinto too...but it's STILL gonna be a Pinto!
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J Fletcher

 

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London,Ont,Canada
Post  Posted 2 Oct 2008 6:45 am    
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Hi Bob
In the end I sold the Fender steel I had, with all the parts included. I felt bad about selling off parts individually, and decided against it, preferring to let the buyer have everything.
I thought it was a great steel, I just had too many...Jerry
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Bob Hickish


From:
Port Ludlow, Washington, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 2 Oct 2008 7:49 am    
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No big deal Jerry . it all worked out fine and I now have the
little Fender playing as sweet as i can do it .

In this thread I just wanted John to know it is posable to do
what he ask . Jim is correct to a point , but if John does it himself
as a labor of love he could do it for a very low cost and have fun
little guitar -- no its not what you would call the best of guitars but
a very good go anywhere steel - you don't mind taking it to the dusty
dirty gigs , when you get home you just hose it off through it in
the dryer . Shocked

PS -- I didn't mention I have another lever to add to make it a 3 & 5

Hick
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