Peterson Stroboflip, is it really worthwile the money.

J Hollenberg · From: Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

I am using a Korg AT-12 tuner for the last 15 years.
Now I see raving reviews of people who are using the Peterson Stroboflip tuner.The questions are: Does it really makes a big differece in tuning using both tuners, besides the easier tuning on the Peterson concerning the offsets.And the big question: Can you hear it, because I understand that you can hear it maybe on a open chord but while playing with barslides and barshivering.Peterson users, give me your opinions.
Thanks in advance.
PS, here in The Netherlands the Peterson costs $368.
Is it worth the money ??.

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

I don't use the factory steel guitar settings, I have my own, that I programmed into the user memories. It is much easier to read and to tune up since you do not have to remember what the settings are. For example on a tuner such as you have if you do not tune everything to "0" (or 440) then you have to remember where on the tuner scale the strings are. With a programmable tuner you do not have to "compensate" since you have the compensation built into the tuner. With the Strobe O Flip, the compensations are programmed in.

There is another option that is almost as good as the Strobe O Flip and is a lot less expensive. The Sonic Research "Turbo Tuner" which will require programming your tuning into the unit and uses a moving circle of LED's for the "Strobe" tuning.
http://www.turbo-tuner.com/

I have both and the Strobe O Flip is easier to read the dial, but both are just as accurate.

As far as whether the strobe tuners help, the answer is Yes. I can tune faster and more accurate with the strobe type tuners.

Bob Martin · From: Madison Tn

Hi J, I am a very happy Peterson tuner user and I can only give you this advice. If being in tune is an important issue to you then it is worth every penny.

Now if you can't tell the difference in the in tuning of your guitar after you buy the new Peterson then you have made a poor decision in purchasing the tuner.

To put it as bluntly as I can and I do not wish to hurt your feelings but if you can't hear the difference in minor adjustments of your minor 3rds and your pedal tuning adjustments now with your current tuner then I suggest that you save your cash Smile

If you can always hear that little out of tune sound when playing full chords or pedal down or up or even with your band mates then you might benefit from the purchase.

By the way please don't buy the tuner locally log into the internet if you can and pay the going price from any american musical web site they are not nearly that expensive over here:-)

I certainly hope that I wasn't to blunt or even to honest but I was trying to save you some cash Smile

To end my suggestion I will say this if you are happy with your current tuning then save your money most likely you might not notice the difference!

Bob
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J Hollenberg · From: Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

Jack, thanks for the answer and the info

Bob, I can hear the difference in minor 3 thirds, thats not the problem.
About buying on the internet,sure in the USA it is cheaper but then the shipping costs,for example:on the site of the Turbo Tuner the shipping costs are $24.When it arrive in The Netherlands I'll have to pay a lot of taxes so for such items it is not worthwile to buy it in The States.Thanks for mentioning it anyway.

Jeff Hyman · From: West Virginia, USA

Most of the mail-order companies have a 45-day easy return policy. I believes if you try one out, you'll want to keep it. I don't want to repost for a third time, but I did comment on my recent purchase of one. Go ahead and take the leep. You'll love this piece of equipment (Peterson VS-R Rack Mount) and you'll notice the difference in cost from cheaper tuners immediately. The other nice thing about the Peterson VS-R is it is really a fabulous "Band" tool. Easily use pre-selected instrument settings for (ie) Bass, Fiddle, Guitar and the entire band will be in tune as one unit. One other thing I liked is the PRESET button makes it easy to rename so the other pickers can plug in and push the button the their instrument. In my case, all I have are 3 selections programed into the display. Man... I love this thing.

PS: I have used, and still own all the Korg rack units.

This is just my opinion.
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CrowBear Schmitt · From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

i got a peterson strobo rack from the usa & i saved €€€
i had a fo'bro' send it to me postal & paid no import taxes
( the unit runs on 110v & 220 v )
am i happy w: this tuner ?
YES !
great for psg, lap steel, guitbox & bass
& much more too

Joe Smith · From: Charlotte, NC, USA

I really like my Peterson tuner. It makes it real easy and fast to tune up before a gig. Nothing is perfect and there is no such thing as being in perfect tune. You can only tune to what your ear says is in tune. The Peterson does that for me and I sound in tune with the band.

Dave Flanagan · From: Mt. Vernon,Il.

another option? I've been usingfor the last year the Korg LCA120 chromatic turner and you can program your tunings in it and it seems it has a couple more opctions for much less $. Please keep in mind this is jusr my opion

Doug Beaumier · From: Northampton, MA

The Stroboflip is fantastic. I set mine go directly to the Newman settings (sweetened E9) when powered up. No more trying to remember how many cents to flat or sharp strings, pedals, and levers. The tuner compensates everything. I have long forgotten how many cents to flat or sharpen stings! Winking

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Jack Ritter · From: Enid, Oklahoma, USA

These tuners are great for me. had 2 of the VS-11 and have 2 stroboflips.
I use Jeff's sweetened tunings on the E-9 and C-6 both, and it takes very little time for a complete tune-up or , just running the open strings before playing. I keep 1 plugged into my Rev Preamp all the time and it is really nice to leave it on if you want and tune "on the fly" if you want to check a string pitch, without disturbing the band or crowd.
however, I usually have mine turned off and just turn it on to check something, which I really seldom have to do.
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Jack Goodson · From: new brockton,alabama (deceased)

dave: if you dont mind me asking, where did you find the korg lca120? and also what price?....thanks jack

Rick Barnhart · From: Arizona, USA

Yes
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Cliff Kane · From: the late great golden state

I know it might seem expensive, but I've had one for a little while and I wouldn't want to go back to not having it. It's great, it makes tuning fast and easy, and it's fun and educational to use. It is worth having if you can afford it.

bob drawbaugh · From: scottsboro, al. usa

No I don't like the strobfilp at all. I would much rather use my Boss. If I had it to do over I wouldn't have bought it. If you get one get the stomp pedal because it has a true bypass. The strobfilp does not and it screws with your tone. Sad

Mike Poholsky · From: Kansas, USA

I just received my StroboStomp VSS that I purchased off Ebay. Less than $100. I saw that many here on the Forum had the StroboFlip, but I have a pedal board, so it made more sense to me to have it as a pedal. So far I like it a lot. Quick,Easy,ACCURATE. The StroboStomp VSS does not have the Pedal Steel offsets programed in. You can get them off the Peterson website and program them in yourself. There are two channels that you can progam. Took me about 5 mins. I believe the Stomp II has the PSG offsets already loaded.
Tuned by ear for years, some nights my ear just didn't have it. Something about knowing when you hit strings 1-4 (I had more trouble with those)they are going to sound good. Gives me a little more confidence.
The StoboStomp VSS & Stomp II are True Bypass. It does not affect my tone at all. Automatically mutes when you hit the switch to tune.
I think I've read on the Forum that the StroboFlip is not True Bypass.
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Ulf Edlund · From: Umeå, Sweden

I use a Strobo Stomp and i love it!
It's the same tuner as the "flip" but it mutes your signal while tuning, and it's true bypass when you play.
This is a very good tool for tuning on stage, rehersal and any other noisy enviroment.
Yes i know tuning by ear is the best, but when you are in the same room as people armed with telecasters, organs and drums a strobo-stomp makes a whole lot of difference!
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Cliff Kane · From: the late great golden state

Regarding the lack of true bypass for the StroboFlip, if you haven't seen it you should read James Morehead's post about the StroboFlip and true bypass:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=141278

James did a really clean simple mod to his guitar for this. I use an A/B box to achieve bypass and muting. Some folks run the tuner from the second out on their volume pedal. There are a lot of solutions. I almost went with the StroboStomp instead of the StroboFlip because of the bypass and tuning mute on the StroboStomp, but I ended up going with the StroboFlip because of its features. I think I paid about $10 for my A/B box, and the whole system works great for me. These tuners are a big improvement over the Boss tuner I was using.

Ronald Sikes · From: Corsicana, Tx

I really like my Stroboflip.As far as a bypass.I have my Peterson mounted on the leg of my steel with a 3' chord attached to it (unplugged from my guitar).I tune up before I start playing.I just unplug the cord from my steel, lay it over the bracket of my Stroboflip and plug the tuner into my steel.When I'm finished tuning I unplug the Stroboflip and plug my guitar back in.If I need to tune after a break the cords are right there,without even bending over.
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Mark van Allen · From: Watkinsville, Ga. USA

Another "yes".

Paddy Long · From: Christchurch, New Zealand

Another big yes for the stroboflip ....and I also have the Stroborack which is even better !

Robert Dominick · From: Bradenton, FL

for Jack Goodson...

You can find the Korg LCA 120 tuner at:
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-KOR-LCA120-LIST

Price is great too! I even checked other vendors on EBay but American Musical Supply has the best price I've found so far. Hope this helps. By the way, I,ve been using this tuner for several months now...love it!

Bill Moore · From: Manchester, Michigan

I recently got the Korg LCA 120 and I'm very happy with it. I used the Boss TU-12 for many years, I like the Korg better. It has a backlit screen, which is nice, much easier to see in low light. I made a holder for it that attaches to the right rear leg, and run a cable to it from the 3rd output jack of my Hilton pedal. I don't have a problem remembering the settings that I have used for years. I bought it from Same Day Music, 60.00, with free shipping. About the same as I paid for the Boss about 25 years ago.
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Bob Snelgrove · From: san jose, ca

What is the "Equal" setting in the lower right?

Is this true bypass?

thx

bob

Ken Mizell · From: Lakeland, Florida, 33809, USA

I have the Korg LCA-120 flip top tuner, and love it. I can't find anything not to like about it. You can't leave it in-line, but I don't do that anyway. The screen is very easy to read, and you can program one set of off-sets.

Guitar Center has them for $59.99 - that's where I got mine.

The Strobo-Flip is, no doubt, a great product, but I just didn't want to spend that much money.
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