"Beginners Notes..."

Johnne Lee Ables · From: Minnesota, USA

Dick,

I think your "Beginner's Notes" Series may force me to learn to read tab. I've always relied on my ears, though I can read music enough to get by. But there seems to be a lot of great ideas that are only available in tab.

Great 'Master Class' approach, Dick!

Thanks for your time and effort!

Johnne Lee
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Dick Sexton · From: Greenville, Ohio

Thanks Johnne Lee, I'm a master of nothing, truely. I just find tab an easy way to preserve my thoughts, those I share freely, for what it is worth, with anyone who cares to look them over. I too, do not read standard notation very well at all and do not recommend anyone learning to read tab to use as a piano player might. I view tab as a very basic tool, much like a screw driver or a pair of pliers, a means to get a task accomplished. A means of communicating my thoughts to other steel players, many very far from my location. For that purpose, it is very useful to me. For that purpose, you might find it also useful. Bear in mind, tab I believe, can not convey what is in a players heart. It is, however, the basic mechanics(nuts and bolts)of the music, heart has to be added when it is played. But this, I suspect, you already know. By the way, one of the reasons I have not posted sound clips and/or videos of my tab is because they are ment to be musical ideas for the readers use, to change, manipulate and make their own. Wouldn't want anyone playing like myself. Good steelin to you. DS

Tamara James · Posted 23 Aug 2008 6:08 pm

The problem I have with tab is in codependents. I can read the tab allright. Sometimes it doesn't come out the way it was intended to because my set up is different. Especially when using knee levers. I have to play around and listen to figure out what I have to do to get the results the tab indicates. Sometimes I get it, sometimes I don't. Having the day set-up when everyone else has the other one doesn't help. Whoa!

Johnne Lee Ables · From: Minnesota, USA

Dick Sexton · From: Greenville, Ohio

Tamara,
Thank you for bringing this up. I for one am also somewhat in the gray as to what the actual differences are. Of course, from what the good forum folks have posted helped, so I have, at least in my mind worked it out in this way. #1. It has been said here, that pedals A & B are reversed on the Day setup from the Emmons setup. If that is true then to get the B & C combination, it follows that the C pedal must be placed in the Emmons Pedal A position or counting left to right (1,2,3) in position 1, with B in position 2 and A in position 3. If I am incorrect on this, someone please correct me. #2. If you are a player who has the "E" raise and lower on the left knee. It would be reasonable to assume, that the "E" raise and lower on the left knee are just the opposit on the Day setup from the Emmons setup, this would allow for the AF and BE pedal combinations.

Now with this in mind, in my tab at least, if you substute A for B and B for A, wala you have it. The other changes I've tabed should and will from now on, give you the note the change pulls to.

I do raise my 1st and 7th strings F# to G and I know some of you may not. I do lower my 2nd string D# to D and I know that some of you don't. With this also in mind, I call my second string lower "D" and my 1st and 7th strings raise "G". That is logical to me and the way I write my tab.

If this is confusing in any way, I will do what I can to help, anyone. I have all of the Beginners Notes series in word documents. Changing from Emmons to Day is as easy as a "find and replace" command. I will make that change for anyone who would like and who e-mails me. As a matter of fact, I will do that on any Beginners Notes form now on and if you play the Day setup, and want it in that format, again, just e-mail me.

I have good friends who are very good players who play the Day setup, never once held them back or slowed them down. There does seem to be a proponderance of material written for the Emmon setup though. I think Mr. Newman had something to do with that, at least in my case of playing Emmons.

Happy picking friends,
DS

Glyn Bone · From: Halifax.Nova Scotia. Canada * R.I.P.

Dick and Tamara,
Someone with more knowledge may correct me if I'm wrong here...but what "set-up" you use..ie...Day or Emmons, shouldn`'t make any difference IMO...it doesn`t matter what brand PSG you have nor where the pedals /levers are located on your instrument....if the TAB says " a/b" then you use YOUR "a-b" same with any other pedals /levers you have..if the Tab calls for a specific pedal or lever you use it regardless of where it is on your guitar....some guys ( and gals) may have their pedals /levers set-up in different places as suits their own style/method/or physical abilities....the Tab only 'suggests' what ped/lever to use...NOT where it is on your guitar.....Day, Emmons or Joe Soap set-up it doesn`t matter.....just read interpret and PLAY it Very Happy

Like I said...if I'm wrong then someone better correct me Whoa!

Have a great day guys

And Dick...many thanks indeed for the "beginners Notes" I have them all copied and pasted ready to print out...they are very good and very helpfull Very Happy

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Dick Sexton · From: Greenville, Ohio

Thanks Glyn,

Appreciate your Emmons/Day setup comments and the very kind words. I see what your saying, ie. doesn't matter as long as you know what you've got and what is happening when you press something. Tab is tab, an A is an A and a B is a B. Emmons or Day, those pedals make the same changes on either setup. Idea

Let's pick that thang...
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Tamara James · Posted 25 Aug 2008 6:17 am

Yes. You all are correct on the pedals. ABC is still ABC no matter what the direction.

It's the knee levers. If the tab is using a string and knee lever combo and the knee lever indicated doesn't move that string on my guitar, I know I gotta improvise to achieve the desired effect. That is what the wonderful world of ear training comes in so handy. It's just a thing. I'm getting better at it. It's all good. I'm learning a whole lot about the mechanics of my guitar. Tab is only a "roadmap" anyway. It is great for instruction and transferring ideas, but not so good for actual playing. Very Happy

Johnne Lee, don't worry too much about reading tab. Trust your ears more. Never get so good at reading music it hurts your playing. It can get in the way. Very Happy

Johnne Lee Ables · From: Minnesota, USA

b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

b0b · From: Cloverdale, CA, USA

Johnne Lee Ables · From: Minnesota, USA

Tamara James · Posted 25 Aug 2008 3:19 pm

Stuart Legg · Posted 2 Sep 2008 10:59 am

I should think "codependents" is a good term. The PSG depends on pedals to be a PSG and as PSG players we depend on pedals to play PSG, so me and my PSG are "codependent".

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