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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 11 Aug 2008 9:13 pm    
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I bought this Emmons S-10 from a recording studio in CT (I was told it's a '71, I don't really know). It's in really nice condition, sounds fantastic and even has a fixed pin volume pedal with it (the pot is an old Clarostat, clear as the driven snow).

Anyway, I rolled up my sleeves for an adventure in Push/Pull land and got the hang of tuning it fairly quickly. I was a little intimidated by the prospect of messing with the undercarriage, but I spent a few hours figuring out how it worked in tandem with the good info available online, and now I'm not so scared. The knees are not the way I want them to be, so I'm going to pay Tom Vollmer a visit soon. Other than that, the action is good on the guitar and it feels real stable.

I'm very happy with this guitar and had to really scrape every penny together for it (although I got an unbelievable deal).

What do you think?





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Damir Besic


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Post  Posted 11 Aug 2008 9:36 pm    
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congrats, it really doesn`t get any better than this...

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Matthew Prouty


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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 7:51 am    
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Super nice! I just picked one up and its a '77. You should be able to get a good idea of the age by the serial number. Mine is 1515S, which is stamped on the end plate.

My knee to lower was on the volume pedal side, so I changed it around to the pedal side. Also I put on a change that was not there, G# to F# on the 6th sting. It was very easy, the only problem I had was adjusting the 4th string raise and lower. I got that figure out last night.

Enjoy!
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Carl Vilar


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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 7:56 am    
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Real nice Mike good luck with it there's nothing like the sound of a PP.
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Dave Diehl

 

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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 8:31 am    
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I have one exactly like it Mike which was only played about a year until I got a D10 and been in the case ever since. They are great guitars and I'm sure it'll serve you well.
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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 8:46 am    
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Nice Emmons, Mike! It looks to be in great condition. I play the same guitar, #1433 S, late 1975 or early 1976. The serial number is stamped on the inside of the endplate, on the changer end of the guitar.

I heard about this Emmons last week. A friend in CT told me about the guitar, the seller, contact info, etc., but I didn't follow up. Looking at the pictures makes me wish I did! It's a nice looking PSG and I'm sure it sounds great. Enjoy!

Here is mine:


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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 10:13 am     Well now...................
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It may be 'Mica' but it sure ain't BLACK!
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mike nolan


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Forest Hills, NY USA
Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 11:34 am    
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Nice one Mike! Very Happy
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Steve Feldman


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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 12:22 pm    
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Me LIKEY! Congratulations!
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Bryan Daste


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 1:50 pm    
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Looks like the sister to my latest acquisition, a rosewood mica S-12:

http://scotlandbarr.com/Emmons/

This is my first p/p, sounds like yours too...enjoy it! There are lots of guys on here who can answer questions about the changer. Try to find someone in your town who works on push pulls, if you haven't already - being able to ask questions while they work on your guitar is invaluable training!

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Austin Tripp

 

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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 8:17 pm    
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Hey Mike, Does your "new" p/p have the brown emmons logo on it? My computer plays tricks with me on color's, what looks blue may be black sometimes, what looks brown may be black.

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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 12 Aug 2008 9:24 pm    
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Austin Tripp wrote:
Hey Mike, Does your "new" p/p have the brown emmons logo on it? My computer plays tricks with me on color's, what looks blue may be black sometimes, what looks brown may be black.


Yes, it's a brown logo and it appears to be plastic.
Serial # 1641 S. Guess that makes it about a '79, according to what I've seen on a forum search.
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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2008 3:46 am    
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I had an identical S-10, except mine was a "Fat Back" (aka "Flat Back"). Mine was believed to be a '71.

Enjoy your adventures in the "Push-Pull Kingdom", Mike.
It's a place everyone should visit, the sounds in the jungle are unlike anywhere else. Some folks never return.

I spent several years with both a an S-10, and a D-10, before leaving. I'm glad I experienced it.
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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2008 8:34 am     Emmons S-10
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Great looking guitar. I had one exactly like it. I traded it to get a D-10 PP. The S-10 is a great sounding guitar. Now start looking for a Peavey Session 400 with a JBL for "that sound."

Marvin
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Dave Ristrim


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Whites Creek, TN
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2008 2:29 pm    
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Hi Mike.
Yeah it looks like a dream machine.
Dave
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2008 2:36 pm    
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Cool. I am sitting here with an SD-12 that is just crying out to be played. Every time someone posts about his P/P I take another look at it and say "tomorrow!"
Well....Tomorrow!

Enjoy.
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Jon Zimmerman

 

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California, USA
Post  Posted 15 Aug 2008 5:04 pm     P/P single
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Ditto the above's. Worth the effort in every way, Mike. Very Happy JON Z
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 15 Aug 2008 7:22 pm    
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I was looking under the hood last night and I actually made a change to one of the knees--RKL had 2 changes, but only one seemed to do anything (string 1, F# to G). Well, now I got a G# to F# lower on string 6, as well. I then looked at RKR and, to my surprise, there's only the D#-D-C# change, no string 9 D to C#.

My question is: How difficult will it be to get that lower on string 9? The hardware's not there so obviously I'll have to get it somehow. Hopefully I find time soon to get over to Tom Vollmer's place, but in the meantime I purchased Clem Schmitz's Methodology book and DVD.

I really want to learn how to play this thing....
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 15 Aug 2008 9:14 pm    
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I then looked at RKR and, to my surprise, there's only the D#-D-C# change, no string 9 D to C#.


Same thing on my S-10 p/p. As far as I know, most Emmons p/p's did not have that change back in the 1970s (mine still doesn't). Making changes on a push pull is a lot of work, and parts are very hard to find. Welcome to the push/pull club! Winking
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 15 Aug 2008 9:20 pm    
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OK, well, no sense of getting ahead of myself. There's a lot of music can be made on the guitar the way it is!
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 15 Aug 2008 11:02 pm    
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Putting a ninth string semitone
drop on the same lever as the
second string full-tone drop is
not too difficult, if you have
(or can make) the parts.

The difficult bit is getting the
timing just right, so that the
ninth drop starts when the
second string has already
dropped a half-tone.

I cheated on my pushpull,
by using a long pushrod,
bent back on itself,
for the ninth drop.
(See if you can find it in the photo Smile )
The length of the rod gave it a
bit of sideways movement,
which was required as the
ninth finger bottomed out
before the second finger had
reached its stop


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mike nolan


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Forest Hills, NY USA
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2008 8:13 am    
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It's not really that big of a deal to add the 9th lower.... and as a bonus it gives you a feel stop for the 1/2 tone lower on string 2. You can usually get a bellcrank, swivel, and some collars from Emmons. If not, I'm sure I have the parts around here..... in fact, If you feel like a drive over to Queens, I'll help you put it on.
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2008 9:43 am    
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some scary weird stuff under your steel, richard. course all that matters is if it works, i guess!
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James Cann


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2008 9:17 am    
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". . . where angels fear to tread"
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2008 10:22 am    
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I prefer:

He Who Dares Very Happy
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