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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2008 5:18 pm
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Hey, all, I'm new to the Forum, though not new to pedal steel (going back to 1972!). My trusty Nashville 400 seems to be developing some problems, so I'm considering the popular Nashville 112. Now I'm assuming you can't expect 80 watts to give the same body as 200 watts, nor a single 12" the same power as a Black Widow 15", BUT I would love to hear from anyone who has heard them both or can provide me with some serious pro/con comments on the sound quality of the NV112 when compared with heavier/pricier amps. I've never been able to go above 3 on the 400 (in fact, rarely did I ever hit 3) on the volume, so is the 400 just more power than is really necessary for most venues? Any opinion is welcomed. Thanks. |
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Michael Haselman
From: St. Paul
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Posted 4 Jul 2008 5:55 pm
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As a 112 user for 2 years now, (and a Webb and Session 400 owner) it's like this for me. They sound great, and if you're in small clubs with a band that plays at reasonable volume, you're fine. Most of my gigs are with bands that mic the instruments and I have my own monitor mix, be it in-ears or wedges. If you're playing in a loud band in large venues with limited monitor capability, the N400 will probably work better. I have the Burr-Brown mod in mine, and love the sound and really love the lower weight factor. It fits in my trunk right next to my Classic 30 that I use for 6-string. _________________ Mullen RP D10, Peavey NV112, Hilton volume. Hound Dog reso. Piles of other stuff. |
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Clyde Mattocks
From: Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2008 6:09 pm
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I had always used the bigger amps (Sessions, Twins)
till a couple of years ago when I got my first NV112.
It is always adequate for me in the loudest gigs. I
saw and heard a telecast of a park concert we did last year and I was amazed at how big the 112 sounded, much closer to the steel sound I am always looking than I have ever gotten. It is an amazing
piece of gear. _________________ LeGrande II, Nash. 112, Fender Twin Tone Master, Session 400, Harlow Dobro, R.Q.Jones Dobro |
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Michael Douchette
From: Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Rick Alexander
From: Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Jul 2008 9:53 pm
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The NV112 sounds great and has plenty of power for most venues.
Two of them will kick major butt, and you can always mic through a PA.
Plus they're a lot easier to carry! _________________
BIG STEEL |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 2:09 am
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I haven't used anything but a NV112 since I got it a couple of years ago. I've still got my Nashville 1000 if I ever need it for a "loud" job but I haven't been anywhere that it called for that much power.
The NV112 is a "loud" 80 watts. It would "blow away" the Evans SE200 that I once had. |
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Don Sulesky
From: Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 5:18 am
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I've had mine for three years now and haven't used my NV400 or NV1000 since.
Everywhere I've played the NV112 has been more than enough power for the country and Jazz that I've played.
Don |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 10:29 am
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I've never been able to go above 3 on the 400 (in fact, rarely did I ever hit 3) on the volume... |
That's unfortunate. I've never run any of my amps under 6 or 7 (even when playing quietly in the house), and I normally run them wide open - to get the best sound. I find that best sound and tone is always obtained with the amp "working", as opposed to "idling".
If you'd learn to control the volume with your volume pedal, you might be surprised at the improvement in your tone! |
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Rick Alexander
From: Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 11:22 am
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Now that I think about it, I don't recall ever seeing or hearing anyone saying anything negative about them.
They're relatively small, but they don't sound like it . . |
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Jim Eaton
From: Santa Susana, Ca
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 3:22 pm
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I'm very happy with my pair of NV-112's and even though I could just use one for 99% of all my gig's, I really like the sound I get using 2 of them!
I got one of the original Session 400's w/JBL when they first came out and IMHO the NV-112 is the best sounding amp Peavey has come out with since that original Session 400. I still have that Session 400 and a 2nd one + a Nashville 1000 too, but when it's time for a gig, it's the NV-112's that get loaded up to go to work!
All you need to add is a Knob Guard to keep them from loosing their little knobs to a door jamb or a careless band member and your set!
Go to www.jimeatonmusic.com for info on the original Knob Guard for NV-112's!
JE:-)> _________________ Emmons D10PP 8/4 -75'
Emmons S-10PP 3/4 - 79'
Emmons S-12PP 3/4 -78'
MSA Legend SD12 5/5 -06'
Mullen S-12 4/5 - 1986
Nashville 112 x2 W/Knob Guards - Don't leave home with out one!
Walker SS rack system - 12"BW's
Quilter Steelaire Combo |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 6:41 pm Thanks!
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Hey, thanks for all the swift replies! I would love to investigate an Evans or Tom Bradshaw's revamped Webb amps, but the cost is rather prohibitive, so it looks like there may be another order for the NV112. One particular question on the NV112's sound: as far as a full sound, has anyone noticed a decrease - even slight - in the bass end? I would tend to think lighter weight translates into less substantial low end, but so far no one has mentioned that. Any further thoughts, folks? |
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Rick Alexander
From: Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 7:07 pm
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You would think so, but it's not the case at all.
NV112s have plenty of bottom end.
At the big Steel Guitar Conventions (Dallas, St Louis etc) that's what you see on the stage.
To the best of my knowledge Bobbe Seymour has the lowest prices on them - that's where I got mine.
http://steelguitar.net
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Casey Lowmiller
From: Kansas
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 7:24 pm
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There are alot of guys who play E9th & C6th and they love them.
If you search the forum, there are some people who complain about the way they handle C6th. Personally, I've heard quite a few people play C6th through them & they sounded great!!!
When I emulate C6th on my E9th LaGarritt, it never seems to have a problem soundin great & my LaGarritt is a very thick & full sounding guitar. The 12 inch speaker handles the bass really well...that speaker is nothing short of amazing.
I've been more then impressed with'em. They produce alot of sound, the tone is umbelieveable and they are light enough that you can certainly gig with them and not hurt your back loading & unloading them.
If you have a chance to get one, I'm sure you'll love it. If you don't love it, there are tons of people who would buy it from you.
The thought of dual 112's is VERY TEMPTING
Casey _________________ Known Coast to Coast as
"The Man with The Plan" |
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Rick Alexander
From: Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 8:16 pm
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2 of them with a stereo reverb is awesome.
Separate them by a few feet if space permits and you'll be in sonic steel heaven. |
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James Martin (U.K.)
From: Watford, Herts, United Kingdom * R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jul 2008 12:47 am Wide open !
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I'm with Donny. I always have the master wide open and the pre-gain at seven or eight and make full use of the volume pedal. I find that these settings brings out a tone from the 112 that you couldn't get any other way. And, like Donny, I practice with the same settings. |
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Larry Hamilton
From: Amarillo,Tx
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Posted 9 Jul 2008 4:11 pm
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Daniel, I have a pair of 112's,
session 400, and an Evans E-200. I keep going back to the 112 whether I use one or both of them. _________________ Keep pickin', Larry |
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Larry Scott
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 9 Jul 2008 5:13 pm
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They are great amps, but they don't have the tone and balls of a steel king
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2008 5:58 am Nashville 112
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Thanks for the input guys!
Larry, I think that a big part of the steel guitar amp "puzzle" is the weight factor and I see that you have split your amp into two cabs. But this is just an extra expense on the purchaser. Why not just purchase the Nashville 112's to begin with and go play the gigs? Your Nashville 112's would be paid for in 5 or 6 gig payments. Just a thought. |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 13 Aug 2008 5:44 pm
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Thanks to everyone for the help. I've had my Nashville 400 worked on, and it sounds superb. In the meantime, I went ahead and bought a Nashville 112, and have used it live a few times. Pretty good little amp! I think there is a bit of sound difference between the two amps, but it works well and does indeed save my back some strain. I still prefer the 400, but the 112 is a fine second amp. |
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