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Topic: Fender 1000 Pickups Ohms |
George King
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Woodlawn,Illinois
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Posted 29 Jul 2008 12:45 pm |
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| I have a 1962 fender 1000 with the single wide style pickups.They both appear to be dead.What should they read when testing the ohms?I wasn't sure what they were originally wound to or who to see about getting them rewound to original specs..Thanks George |
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2008 7:55 pm
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George - I've had many of them and there was no exact reading that was considered correct, as they did not (and neither do most pickup makers) manufacture to a DC resistance spec - instead it's size of wire and number of turns.
Still, there's usually some consistent range. The ones I've had have measured anywhere from 5.6 - almost 7k.
This is a good example of why ohms is NOT a valid measurement for output. I've had middle-of-the-pack 400 pickups with about the same output as my 20k MSA's did...but a totally different frequency response and effect on pedals, amp input stages, etc.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 30 Jul 2008 1:27 am
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| Jim's observation is painfully true, there was a lot of inconsistency in those pickups. Still, the sound seemed pretty consistent. |
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George King
From:
Woodlawn,Illinois
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Posted 30 Jul 2008 12:14 pm
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| Thanks guys, so whats the answer?Do I have the pickups rewound or try to find an original pair to replace them>Would rewinds come close to the original tone?Thanks George |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 1 Aug 2008 10:11 am
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You actually have four choices...
Have the originals rewound (AFTER you've checked them thoroughly).
Look for another set of originals (hard to find, and probably expensive).
Purchase another set of used 8-string pickups (of a non-Fender make) as most will fit the large pickup cavities in the older guitars.
Have someone make you a new set from scratch.
If it were me, I'd have the originals rewound to original specs. Sonically, they'd probably be identical to the originals, and they're certainly no good if they are defective.  |
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Alvin Sydnor
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Boothwyn, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 1 Aug 2008 6:18 pm
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George:: I would suggest you check with your meter at the switch solder terminals for each pickup.
If you are checking at the output jack you could have an open between there and the switch.
Alvin |
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George King
From:
Woodlawn,Illinois
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Posted 1 Aug 2008 7:36 pm
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| Thanks for the replies guys.I have checked the solder terminals on the pickups with them disconnected and there is nothing.When I have them installed and wired directly to the jack if I turn my amp wide open I can get a small amont of volume from them but not enough to even play in the bedroom at home.So I'm guessing they are shorted somewhere.I guess I'm looking for a pair of replacements.Thanks George |
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Brick Spieth
From:
San Jose, California, USA
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Posted 4 Aug 2008 12:03 pm
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| I'd call Lindy Fralin and ask about a rewind. He's been doing it for a long time. I'm sure there are plenty of others also, and the cost is not too bad.[/i] |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 5 Aug 2008 5:07 am
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George, I've had Jerry Wallace rewind Fenders for me and he certainly seems to understand what they're about - I could detect no significant difference from an original, and he doesn't just take the Fender bobbin and turn it into a Trutone.
Lindy would be another good choice. Pretty much a toss-up between them with Fender rewinds. Both have an understanding of "Leo's girls" making scatterwound pickups that amazingly sounded alike, and don't try to "improve" the sound (I've had many bad experiences with rewinders who thought they were smarter than the original maker).
Rewinds are also quite inexpensive. And honestly, you have no choice - unless you could find used ones for sale (good luck - we Fender guys hoard 'em like gold) you HAVE to go for a rewind, as no one is making "new" ones - the bobbins are not available.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2008 10:43 pm
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Bill Rudolph at Williams guitars used to do re-winds at one time and, as I understand it, did a good job at this. He has pretty sophisticated winding equipment. He may still do this...don't know, but it's worth an email or phone call.
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Curtis Alford
From:
BastropTexas, USA 78602
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Posted 11 Aug 2008 9:27 am Pick-ups
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They could just de-magnitized and need to be re-magnitized. If you are getting some output I would say check to see if they are weak and not shorted.
Curtis |
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