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Topic: It's A Good Day...When... |
Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2008 6:28 am |
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It's a good day when you can break away from a given note of a melody, by finding a more pleasing intonation of the same note, elsewhere on the fretboard. There is a world of difference in spacings of full tones when the note is played. The pitches between the tones deliver the "feel" of the lyrics. 
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 26 Jul 2008 6:57 am
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"The pitches between the tones deliver the "feel" of the lyrics."
This sounds suspiciously like a chick-singer theory.  |
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Mark MacKenzie
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Franklin, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2008 8:07 am
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| You mean timbre not intonation..... |
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 8:34 am
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| Its a good day when you have your health...thats easy to take for granted. Every day you wake up breathing and healthy....is a good day...a great day. |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 9:54 am
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This riddle of adroitness while performing on the steel guitar will require a lengthy study of how different individuals relate to the instrument. I've observed S. Jory, B.Emmons, J. Day, D. Hartley, and a list of others who can be seen on You Tube. Cool, is the best word for their unstoppable abilities. I'm about to enter into a study of what makes them different in their ability to perform at such high levels of speed and imagination.
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richard burton
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 9:57 am
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Ben,
I am in total agreement with you  |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 10:52 am
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Mark MacKenzie
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| You mean timbre not intonation |
He can't say you didn't yell “TIMBRE” as you cut him down. |
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Dick Wood
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Springtown Texas, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 11:49 am
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| It's a good day when my band stops playing Orange Blossom Special at 220 BPM. |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 12:09 pm
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Bo Legg,
Mark is dwelling on intonation, while the super pickers are amassing incredible amounts of arrangements, in the wake of awe inspired catch-as-catch-can hopefuls. The true definition of "tone" is only in part, due to its properties and various extremes of unrelated categories. There is a need to target the ins and outs of super pickers moving quickly to top dog positioning at an early age. There is much more involved than practicing on a regular basis. Circa, 1965 Weldon Myrick arranged Connie Smith's "I'll Come Runnin'". The arrangement changes keys (modulates), and features plenty of hard to emulate timing. In 1979, a steel player stopped by to visit, and he remarked, "When you can play Weldon's arrangement of "I'll Come Runnin'", you can call yourself a steel player." I recognized the remark as a double edged sword, and felt that
taking up the challenge would do me no good without the singer. (There is but one Connie Smith). The caliber of supremacy heard in Weldons arrangement, forestalls any hope of emulating his quickness and tone. I feel that somewhere in the expanded technical information on "Google" and libraries, a reasonable conclusion offering detailed information
awaits the reader to help resolve the issue. 
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Steve Feldman
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Central MA USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 12:29 pm
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Me too....
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"...An admission of interest in protracted commentary is certainly no reason to capitalize on surmised aberations that do not exist." - BH |
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Gabriel Stutz
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Chicago, USA
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Posted 27 Jul 2008 12:33 pm
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"The Riddle of Adroitness" ought to be an album title. I agree that playing the same note in a different place makes a big difference sometimes. I'm not thinking so much in terms of timbre, but more that the notes I habitually play aren't there anymore in the new place. You can stumble onto some new phrase that way, and really start learning the fretboard.
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 3:44 am
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Gabriel,
Yes, "adroitness" is where "it's at". If there is a tendency to pretenses of not getting involved in sleuthing about, it may be misleading. I've never favored leaping on the downed dog.. the syndrome that has become nature's plan of only the fittest will survive. In the midst of the turmoil of passions, and as witnessed through the ages, gifted musicians with poise and character, and spurred on by the love of melodies, surface quickly as leaders. Looking for the many reasons that place steel guitarists in unspoken categories, isn't an easy task. Some may wonder, why bother? Or, leave well enough alone! I say to those, shush! The constraints of individuals with such viewpoints need only to become an esteemed golfer, or any sport requiring well defined skills; to see MY point. . |
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Mark MacKenzie
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Franklin, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 6:25 am
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| Bo, I certainly didn't mean to cut anybody down. |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 6:26 am
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Ben,
Speaking of health issues, 100 years is not nearly enough time to satisfy the incredible curiosity of mankind. We are surrounded by billions of tons of solid rock. Wouldn't it be ridiculous to think that the link to its origin, has been lost forever?  |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 9:14 am
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Mark MacKenzie
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| Bo, I certainly didn't mean to cut anybody down. |
Bill is a consequence of his erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity. Bill has become his vocabulary. Therefore regardless your intent, pointing out an error in his vernacular, in essence Bill, is tantamount to chopping him down. |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2008 4:05 pm
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Bo Legg,
Implausible ritualistic bantering weighs upon the mind, if it excludes logic. For better or worse, I don't mind. When I lose sight of the light at the end of the tunnel, my concern over correct usage of The English Language will be in multiples of alarming disarrays. I try not to make an "Issue out of a tissue". I'm looking forward to a visit from one of the hottest pickers in Massachusetts. His arrangement of O.B.S. on the pedal steel is something to hear. It's fast, and "furious". He's nailed it, and then some. I had not intended to rankle you by defusing "timbre" as a key word to specific melodies played country style. What are your chances of hearing someone in a country band using any term that includes "timbre"? Virtually none, I might add. I've played in country bands for 30 years, and if the word was spoken, it went over my head. When a wife demands not to be spoken to in that "tone" of voice, timbre becomes an issue. For certain, unthinking bandmembers may crackle their words at times. When you speak of "essence", you've stationed yourself in classical terminology, and I submit that "timbre" belongs with the classics of yesteryears. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 29 Jul 2008 6:09 pm
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It’s a given that my vocabulary is old school and best described as the essence of cheap perfume. My vernacular consists mainly of excerpts from old movies. But every time you post I’m right here digging for poTaters.
Bill, your topic is like a garden that promises fresh vegetables and then you hide the Taters with flowers. |
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